An upset Sultan of Selangor has threatened to call off future Sultan of Selangor Cup matches if the protest by the state PAS Youth against two artistes performing for the event went ahead. Sultan Sharafuddin Idris Shah described the protest over rock queen Ella and dangdut singer Mas Idayu as “hypocritical” and “trivial”. He said there were more important issues that the party could focus on.On Monday, Selangor PAS Youth submitted a memorandum to the Selangor Mentri Besar’s office to protest against plans to have Ella and Mas Idayu perform at the match on July 6. State PAS Youth chief Sallehen Mokhyi said the movement felt that performances by the singers were inappropriate as it would be attended by many youngsters.
The youth wing threatened to stage a demonstration at the Shah Alam Stadium if Ella and Mas Idayu were allowed to performed.
The Sultan said yesterday Ella and Mas Idayu were chosen because they were good entertainers and that the organisers felt that they would be able to entertain the people before the match began. The other singer is David Arumugam of Alleycats.
“The organising committee even planned for the performance by the singers to end before the maghrib prayers. They are performers suitable for the family and I don’t know what the fuss is all about,” he said.
The Tuanku said Selangor did not comprise of “just PAS and Muslims,” adding that the state had many political parties and people of other races and faith. He said Pakatan Rakyat was a multi-racial coalition and the sensitivities of other races must be taken into account. “The idea of holding the performance is to create goodwill and bring the people together before the match. Sports and music bring people together,” he said.
Source: Sultan to PAS: Call off protest or I call off
27 comments:
These Taliban wannabes have no place in Malaysia, they should just pack up and go to Afghanistan and Irag to fight the Americans and other infidelas.
Sangei! ( Pashtun for greetings!)
Excellent endorsement to the the new Malaysia!
Thank you, Your Highness. so refreshing to hear a voice of reason from one of the apex institutions of the country. I hope PAS sober up to realise the mandate given to them courtesy of the Pakatan Rakyat by the Selangor people is not a green light to their fundamentalism.
dah takda isu nak dibangkitkan ke? memang perangai diorg suka buat kecoh. tak fikir langsung yang orang bangsa lain pun ada hidup dekat Selangor juga.
dah takda isu nak dibangkitkan ke? memang perangai diorg suka buat kecoh. tak fikir langsung yang orang bangsa lain pun ada hidup dekat Selangor juga.
PAS was not wrong to make that request if you ask me.
All leaders are responsible towards their followers. And our leaders are responsible towards the events that happen within their jurisdiction. Ella and Mas Idayu are Muslims, and the majority of people who will be at that football tournament will be Muslims. I admit there will be people of other faiths there, but when the majority comprises of Muslims, why should PAS not intervene?
aiyah! ella & mas idayu are way too mild compare to those middle eastern belly dancers...
to these ulamak wannabe from pas youth, get a life or better still
don't like malaysia balik arab/afghanistan la!
Youth? Behave more like babies in napkin.
political parties have youth movement for the sole purpose of doing dirty jobs. like fighting with other parties (i mean real fight..), and for trouble making. UNMO youth, PRK youth, and PAS youth are for the same purpose. They get directive from the main organisation (UNMO, PRK and PAS) to carry out trouble-making task. It is easier to manipulate youngsters to so such work.
Recently PAS even went a step further by saying they want to create a 'berani mati' youth movement. though they deny it is 'ala tentera style', but they serve the same purpose, and become sort of gangster and bully for their masters.
Nazi Youth movement in the 1920's was created for the same purpose as well, and after the war, some of them became the terrorist cell group against the allies.
Thank you your Highness..
It is time some one tells these religious fanatics to shut up. Many times they have demos and no one did what you did.
To the Talibans in PAS...if you don't like the concert,stay at home lah. Or better move to the hills in Afghanistan
Thank you your Highness..
It is time some one tells these religious fanatics to shut up. Many times they have demos and no one did what you did.
To the Talibans in PAS...if you don't like the concert,stay at home lah. Or better move to the hills in Afghanistan
master j,
no, they are wrong to protest. if they don't like it, they can stay in surau and read their quran.
nobody insist that they go watch the concert?
since when was PAS given the license by the state govt to mind other muslim's personal business and that includes mine.
so stop preaching what i should or should not do, cos the quran never mention about ella anyway. so stop adding words into it and tell us what is right and wrong.
WTF,
They are not Talibans; and they are just Muslims directing Muslim behaviors for the Muslims.
Jefus,
Hardly any form of endorsement.
LY Tan,
I agree with your statement. Rationality and conscientiousness is the basics.
Dell,
I think it wasn't directed to the community at large; they are seen by the Sultan as much of contempt.
Master J,
I do agree that PAS was not wrong per se; however, rationality and common good is a social principal.
Hasilox,
Maybe; but just maybe.
Artchan,
It is not fanatism; it's behaviorism at most.
maverick,
SingaPORK rules, confirmed!
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Maverick
The Sultan may have a good point though.
Its about Time Pakatan Rakyat get all races and beliefs sit side-by-side in harmony watching the soccer game and build stronger bonding.
The PAS chap is trying to propogate the 'ideals' but should have considered to make it one-step at a time.
Rushing thing make ejaculation fast and spoils the racial integration in long term.
Some of the comments such as linking the youth to the Taliban are unwarranted and it only shows the level of ignorance of the commenter toward a religion.
Was the protest made by the state PAS Youth “hypocritical” and “trivial”? For somebody who supports the idea of living in a society that recognizes a separation between politics and religion, the protest can be described as “hypocritical” and “trivial”, given that the sultan’s argument for having two artistes performing for the event is quiet solid in term of secular principles.
From a religious perspective which is the ground upon that I’m walking, there is a very strong argument that shows having two artistes performing for the event are forbidden. In the context of Islam, it is the responsibility of every Muslim to object the concert regardless of political ideology and the hadith below supports my argument.
Prophet PBUH said: "Whoever amongst you sees anything objectionable, let him change it with his hand, if he is not able, then with his tongue, and if he is not even able to do so, then with his heart, and the latter is the weakest form of faith."
Therefore, to describe the protest as “hypocritical” and “trivial” and claiming that the PAS youth would be better off isolating themselves at the mosque, join the Taliban or whatnot is absurd and uncalled-for.
Pffft protesting over such a minor issue. Why didn't they protest when Hezbollah were killing Sunnis in Lebanon recently?
Talibans (Afghanistan) are worriors who're willing to fight against the 'syaitan'.Instigate a Taliban, prepare for a ......
AFGHAN
i agree with master j & asyraf..
i just want to share a link to Jed Yoong. If, like he says, PAS protesting the Ella and dangdut concert is “trivial”, then why is he so upset?.
kalo di kelantan boleh pisahkan lelaki & perempuan masa buat konsert, saya nak tengok perkara sama berlaku di selangor.
saya setuju, saya pun nak tengok
semau perempuan diasingkan dari lelaki.
perempuan tak boleh cakap dengan lelaki, pakai tudung sampai ke lantai, and tak boleh kerja kat luar. ella perempuan tapi dia orang singing in open, padan muka dia kena boykot.
sudah sampai masa, kita bikin macam saudi arabia. setuju?
Oris,
I think you have a good point about the racial integration; but what was spoken is not about racial integration; it's about a community.
Asyraf,
I agree that the protest by PAS is not hypocritical neither related to Taliban. I support your contention on this point.
From the religious point of view, that is, Islamic point of view, contextually, I also agree with you.
Your quote from the Hadith is relevant.
But I think the view had been taken into consideration in a multi-racial perspective in a plural society and does create concern amongst the others. That apart, based on the perspective of Islam, I had to agree with the objection; my opinion is that we can express our belief and objection in an intellectual forum and such matter can be discussed with the Sultan or with the State MB.
Shai-Hulud,
That is irrelevant and unrelated to this issue.
Suealeen,
You have your right to your opinion and to your stand on your ideology. Equally, we must also respect other communities concern in a multi-racial community. That aside, Muslims must be guided by the Quran in their behavior and actions; but only they themselves can decide for themselves.
mave,
my right and my ideology is Islam. is that a problem?
one thing i would like to ask you. which communities that want to watch ela/mas idayu in concert?
yes, Muslims must be guided by the Quran, but it can't be Quran alone without someone else who set up a good example and guide i.e. anyone who feels it brings no good should voice it out especially ulama. jika anda mentafsir Quran & Hadis secara terus tanpa merujuk kepada yang ahli, maka anda sebenarnya berfahaman Wahabi (bagi yang Muslim). pengajian Quran & Hadis itu perlu dirujuk kepada yang pakar sebab di sebalik penurunan ayat itu adalah berdasarkan peristiwa.
kita tak kisah siapa yang nak menyanyi, yang kita kisahkan apa yang bakal berlaku bila ada konsert.
just look at kelantan, of course everyone can sing but they strictly asking for male singers only. places were divided into 2 - male area & female area.
pernah baca Perjanjian/Piagam Madinah yang dibuat Rasulullah saw dengan multiracial di Madinah?
Suealeen,
As I said, it is your right and your belief and yours. If you think any Muslims can direct your life and way of behavior and that you are subordinated to their thoughts and beliefs and that you believed they had such rights and duty to act at such, and you think they are doing right, and you preferred to be so, yes, you have all your rights and you are doing right. I do not disagree with your desire to be under subordination and preference. Equally, if any others also thinks at such, they also have that same right. I have not disagreed with you or any one else who had their preference, so long as it does not infringed upon individual rights in a society governed by the rules and constitution which forms our legal system encompassing individual rights and freedom. As I remain,and held tight, a community have their own character and belief system and that community is governed by their own rules and system which they subscribe; no objection.
maverick sm,
If you care to read what WTF said, he clearly states that "These Talibans wannabees..." I don't know if you understand what "wannabee" means, you should read all the fucking context before trying to educate other people.You sound jihad fag to me and that's not good.Not related?You think we are stupid?Do you think we are not realizing the so called jihad that's happening virtually in southeast asia?Take a look at south thailand and pihlippines, the terroritst bombings in indonesia, etc etc and even here in malaysia.Stupid syaria la
"That is irrelevant and unrelated to this issue."
Ah now I see that the superficial appearance of 2 Muslim ladies is of greater relevance than the loss of human life.
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