Tuesday, March 04, 2008

Chandra Muzaffar lossen tongue

Former KeADILan deputy president Prof Dr Chandra Muzaffar decided to betray his own principles and broke his silence on his years as Anwar's trusted lieutenant by proclaiming:

"It is something for which I am prepared to go on record now so that people will not be deceived."

Chandra's revelation:

Anwar was an engaging orator. Anwar now speaks differently from when he was in government.

Today, Anwar is taking a totally different image and it is said that quite a lot of non-Malays believe in this man. He is saying today that he wants to abolish the NEP and that is music in their ears.

When Anwar was education minister he had forced a change in the nomenclature from Bahasa Malaysia to Bahasa Melayu, which set back national integration.

Anwar was also responsible for appointing nin-Chinese administrators in Chinese schools, which led to a political crisis in 1987.

Many people did not remember the role Anwar played in resolving the Kampung Jawa clash between the Hindus and Indian Muslims in Penang. He said he would make sure the temple bells would not ring in the country anymore if his dictum was not accepted.

Chandra said the most important quality of a leader in a multi-racial country was honesty and consistency. "When a leader speaks on sensitive ethnic issues he must say the same thing to the non-Malays as he does to Malay audiences. You cannot play games because it is very dangerous."

Chandra also said that although BN is flawed there was no other viable coalition in the country.

Analysis:

Chandra is right on one point: Political leaders must be honest and consistent in their ideology and political philosophy. They must not be double-tongue and practice double standards.

But what Chandra revealed about Anwar were things and acts that Anwar had committed before 1999, that is, when Anwar is Education Minister and Deputy Prime Minister. But in 1999, Anwar was sacked and jailed.

So why is he saying and singing something which was his own as well as Anwars?

If Anwar's ideology and philosophy are things that runs contrary to Chandra's belief and the philosophy of multi-ethnicity, the most puzzling thing is that Chandra elected himself to form KeADILan together with Anwar and got himself appointed and elected as it's deputy president until December 2001 when he was disgusted with certain matters and in-fightings within KeADILan, and decided to quit.

So, hypothetically, Chandra must have acknowledged Anwar's acts and belief and had endorsed Anwar's political philosophy. Otherwise he wouldn't have stayed as deputy president of PKR for 6 years. He must have concurred with the education system, concurred with Kampung Jawa's dictum of Anwar, and agreed on all these discriminatory system of Anwar.

Most puzzling is that he is saying he do not want the non-Malays in this country to be deceived by Anwar's new political philosophy of multi-ethnic stand.

There are two paradoxes:

Firstly, if we accept the explanation and revelation of Chandra and his claim of altruism to prevent the non-Malays from being deceived by a Malay and to protect the multi-ethnic society, we must also accept that Chandra is a "Malay" (by constitutional definition) and to highlight something like "a ploy of a Malay" to deceive the non-Malays is by itself a betrayal of his own community. He should have openly called on Anwar and seek clarification as to why Anwar had decided to changed his political philosophy and dumped his bigotry. By being close friends and political allies and brotherhood, Chandra did not attempt to find out the new Anwar. If he had done a research on Anwar and discovered that Anwar had intended to deceive the non-Malays, then his statement of hypothesis is acceptable and credible. This he did not do.

Secondly, if we hold Anwar to his past philosophies and deny that he could adopt and adapt another philosophies which is part of human passage in life, that itself is flawed. For example, in 1987 Najib who was then the UMNO Youth president had said that he would bath the keris with Chinese blood; but today Najib is singing a new song of multi-racialism and equality and fairness of all races.

UMNO Youth information chief Datuk Azimi Daim said at the UMNO General Assembly: "When certain issues come up, it is natural for the warrior blood in the veins of the Malays to become heated."

Razali Idris (Terengganu)at the UMNO General Assembly said: "This wide disparity will create unrest and an incident like May 13 might repeat but this time, the parang will not fly. An ants' nest should not be disturbed."

Hasnoor Sidang Hussein, (Malacca)Umno said: "UMNO is willing to risk lives and bathe in blood in defence of race and religion. Don't play with fire. If they mess with our rights, we will mess with theirs."

Tan Sri Mohamad Rahmat said: "Don't test the Malays, they know 'amok."

Perlis UMNO Hashim Suboh said: “Datuk Hisham has unsheathed his keris, waved his keris, kissed his keris. We want to ask Datuk Hisham: when is he going to use it?

There are many others which will not be cited here, but it is clear that we only hear of these racial threats from UMNO; we have not heard of even one racial threats from PAS or KeADILan or DAP. PAS ruled Kelantan and Terengganu but they had never at their general assemblies threatened the other races. And Chandra was against PAS ultraconservative Islam which in itself did not discriminate against the non-Muslims.

The rational conclusion is to accept that people and politicians do change their political philosophy and adapt to the surrounding circumstances as and when they are in power; it's about political reality within a multi-racial society. UMNO had being seditious throughout and this we can observed at every of their general assemblies. To conclude, we can say safely that PAS has proven to be the most consistent and honest and had never threatened the non-Malays. DAP is consistent too but the party is managed by the minority race and thus could not be defined in this aspect.

I would give Anwar the benefit of doubt for reason that he had gone to jail, suffered enough and had over these period learnt much about social integration and harmony. He has matured and grown wiser.

On another aspect, I do accept that BN is truly multi-racial but the majority within the coalition adopt a big-boy bullies attitude, ensuring equal amongst the unequal. And the worst of all is, corruption absolutism of the highest order. Thus we have the oligarchy empire and ruler within a democratic system of government.


UPDATE:

I just read E Contrario and a statement strikes me hard in this article entitled: Chandra which I would like to cite a few passage of what Tian Chua said:

[quote]

"I wonder Chandra was always conscious of Anwar’s ‘misdeed’ during his government days? Or this knowledge was an “after-thought” of his post-KeADILan days? If so, who could have imparted such privileged information onto him?"

"Initially I was reluctant, my reason was that I preferred to stay as an NGO activist.

If Chandra had already known Anwar’s wrongdoings, he shouldn’t have recruited me into the party. He should have told me and warned me of the “danger” of associating with Anwar.

The logic of this is simple, either Chandra was dishonest to me at the time of the party foundation, or he is being dishonest now." [unquote]

39 comments:

MYSON said...

doc..

people do change...wind do blow without direction...as for chandra he is just pointing out his 'brain'

we...just changing our direction for the better

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't call BN multi-racial. We don't put some fruits with ice cubes and call it ice-blended fruit juice.

Jefus said...

Do you feel the same before chillies and after?

Exactly.

DSAI was purged and I suppose in the political wilderness he might have gathered fruits of wisdom in jail, in expulsion, in being called the opposition,.......

maybe with a bit of axe to grind,....

Helen said...

I admit I'm initially one of those who had reservations about Anwar based on his pre-prison days.

Reading through various sites, I'm prepared to give the guy a 2nd chance. I agree everyone deserves one.

Will only judge him after he got himself elected. Yes, I believe PKR will do well... I crossed my fingers they will. :-)

Anonymous said...

Here is my view

IMHO, Anwar just too concern about radical Malay thinking. He didn't realise and perhaps refuse to learn that UMNO policies has lead Malay cultures into death end.

That's is nothing wrong to "betray" a unsustainable and broken principle, e.g. NEP. But it is a ultimate betrayal if Anwar refuse to admit the mistake he make.

If Anwar apologies for what his done previously, it is a redemption . But first, can he do it?

warrior2 said...

It is normal that one will defend one`s idol 'no matter what' with all kinds of rasional. It didnt matter that someone else very close to the idol before tried to tell that the idol is not really who he claimed to be. But if Chandra had spoken against a BN Big Gun, wow , the same person will throw fuel into the fire, loosely translated, a kind of batu api! The benefit of doubt is given to the idol but not to those he despise!

It is the same old same old thing again in that who ever spoke against one` idol will be crucified and not given any benefit of the doubt that HE MAY BE TELLING THE TRUTH.

In the case of Anwar, OH WE MUST ACCEPT PEOPLE CAN CHANGE. No same treatment/arguament will be shown to the BN leaders/govt that these group and govt can also change and improve.

Yan said...

BN hasn't changed, still the same racist policy, corruption, big-boy bully, cronysm etc..
But this Chandra has changed from anti-BN to BN supporter now.
May be he is planning for his future & try to get a piece of cake like Lee Lam Thye??

Maverick SM said...

Warrior2,

First among all, I like to address your comments.

I do agree with you that "it is normal that one will defend one's idol no matter what". The same goes to you as can be observed on your political alignment.

But you failed to note that many of these people do not idolized any of these politicians, but more so of seeking the groupings that would provide some form of check and balance against tyranny and oligarchy, and preventing a govt who would get an absolute power to act arbitrarily and with wide discretion to enact bad or at times "evil" laws which do not conform to the universal good as expounded in the philosophy of natural justice and good governance.

I have said in the commenter before this that: "Najib made that statement when he was young and immature and was the UMNO Youth leader. He is now the deputy Prime Minister and fully understands the implication of his past statement. I firmly believed he had regretted what he said and would have changed his ideology, understanding the social-political reality of a plural society.

"Let's leave history behind and move forward; and observed the current ideological stand which is relevant. We may not forget; but let's forgive a man who is contrite; I believed Najib had regretted it."

I do not believed that anyone or any citizens for that matter, that they are seeking a revolution or a total change of govt. The present govt is not tyrannical as yet though there are flaws.

What we citizens seek is a system of check and balance to prevent absolute power that corrupts absolutely. We know and can observed with empirical evidence how the judicial system and the executive branch had been exploited in the interest of a few; and how the economic opportunities had being exploited by the oligarchy. I have empirical experience with the system of exploitation and crony-ism of the highest order. It is true that anyone who wants a project or to negotiate a project with EPU or any ministry would have to go through Level 4; it is not fiction; it is real; even Muhkriz had to pay tribute to level 4. I am working with a few companies in the nego and I understand explicitly.

I do not think any citizen, sensible citizens are seeking a revolution and a change of govt. What most hope for, is that, we have a strong legislature comprising adequately a group who could prevent and stop the excessive abuse of power and exploitations of the nation for the interest of the oligarchy (I am not sure if you are one of those in the oligarchy).

However, this election is a time for the citizen to decide on the composition of the legislature which is the ultimate body that manage the nation and from which the people would derive the good or bad, the protection of rights as enshrine in the Constitution; the assurance of liberty and peace, and the prudent management of the economy of the nation, for the universal good of the people as a whole, and not for the oligarchy alone.

Maverick SM said...

Myson,

I agree with you. But I disagree with Chandra as he was the same person who had proclaimed the innocence of Anwar all the years when he was seeking power in PKR.

Hasilox,

BN is truly a multi-racial party; we cannot deny this truth. The question is about the distribution of power and suspreme control of the BN by UMNO which paralyzed the other races. But we must remember that MCA and MIC and Gerakan had consented to be abused.

Jefus,

You could be right that DSAI could have procured a new realistic political philosophy from the years in jail. But we wouldn't know if he would return to the old self after he gets back the power.

Helen,

I think you are the most sensible independent thought.

Moo_t,

You had posed a great question: Can he do it? I doubted.

Maverick SM said...

Yan,

Every human has desires and ideologies. Chandra is no different but many wouldn't sell their souls to the devils; some would. We can't say Chandra is wrong or he had changed; but one thing is certain - philosophical theory denounced those who sold their friends for one's interest.

Anonymous said...

I trust Anwar more than I trust Najis.

Umno has been so arrogant because they have been commanding 2/3 majority with the help of MCA ,Gerakan and MIC.

Say no to Barisan Najis on 8th March 2008.

warrior2 said...

Mav, I would like to assure you and everybody else that I am nobody`s puppet. I am an independent person.

My comments in this blog and many other blogs have always been in response to what was written. I always addressed to points raised.

In this case, my point of contention, if you read again my earlier comment is very clear. Try to delve into what I meant.

I salute your attempt to explain in great length, but it was not ecesary at all if you had understood what I was saying earlier on.

Fair said...

Mamak Chandra himself is an opportunist,I bet the main reason for him to desert PKR was PKR fared badly in 2004 GE and he concluded that PKR will not be forming the government in the near future.

If PKR had done well in 2004 GE, most probably mamak would have praised Anwar as the saviour of Malaysia, the hope of Malaysia.

famil said...

http://thestar. com.my/news/ story.asp? file=/2008/ 2/15/election200 8/20334927&sec=election2008

March 04, 2008 17:10 PM

EC Scraps Indelible Ink Plan

PUTRAJAYA, March 4 (Bernama) -- The Election Commission Tuesday cancelled plan to use indelible ink in the upcoming general election.

-- BERNAMA

Anonymous said...

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Maverick SM said...

Warrior2,

Thank you for the kind explanation and I truly appreciate your constructive comments. Maybe, I read your views with a wicked eye.

If you observed I too do not endorsed any opposition candidates or Barisan candidates so as to provide an objective view of my opinion which in itself can be seen as being biased; but I can rest assure that I am not.

I emphasize my political philosophy is one that prefers a strong check and balance legislative system which I hope will prevent the abuse of power and any introduction of arbitrary rules or regulations that causes the rakyat to suffer.

I appreciate your explanation and your point of view. Thanks again.

Maverick SM said...

WTF,

We can no longer dwell into the possibility; but one thing is certain; I hate people who betrayed their own conscience. For 6 years Chandra had been Deputy President of PKR and was the founder of PKR. I still have what he said about Anwar during those years which runs contrary to what he said at the dialogue.

Maverick SM said...

Famil,

Thank you for the highlight of the indelible ink issue. Greatly appreciate your effort.

Anonymous said...

This topic going to be more interesting.

I just notice Chandra are deputy president of PKR for 6 years. Now, Chandra does share the responsibilities, in PKR. Since he know Anwar but alas, is he "helpless" to convince Anwar to change to be better leader?

Now this make Chandra in the same league as Anwar. The kettle call the pot black.

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Some commenter criticize bloggers who took the neutral stand that digging Anwar past as "sabotage" to the opposition.

Alas, many people refuse to see the real issue : When you have a great expectation on somebody, you hate their shortcoming and wrong doing, and want them to fix it up ASAP.

Just look at Badawi, bloggers just tired to talk about him. His shortcoming? Who cares.

IMHO, Chandra fail to see the real problem on Anwar, but shooting on the air.

The root problem are many fail to understand the importances of "cultures". Because Malaysian has neglect it for 50 years, and throw it into dustbin since 1969.

The corruptions, rotting education, dependency on key economy, crime rates, deteriorate medical,etc, are a consequences that we neglect the cultures. We are paying the price of it, but still, we think it is simple "corruption" issue.

Do you know what is the real substance of "1st world mentality compare to "3rd world mentality"? Cultures, the way of individual living, the way we growth up, the way we think, morals,etc.

Like a production chains, what should you look for when the production failed to meet the deadline? Eliyahu Goldratt ask us to look into the BOTTLENECK.

And to detect bottleneck, you just look at work in progress product pile up behind the particular production chain.

And that Malaysia bottleneck, are the Malaysia cultures pipeline that Malaysia government narrow down after 1969, even better, with the help of all Barisan Nasional supporter. And from there's on, it affect the Malaysian production.

I hope Anwar has the wisdom to admit this problem, by making apologies on the education suppression policies. If he refuse to make the first step, I won't bother about the abolish NEP talk.

Anonymous said...

spineless loser wants a centre page in propaganda paper, no? let him have his day. his conscience will get the better of him , just as judas.

Maverick SM said...

Moo_t,

I believed we should not be myopic and blinkered. The factual realities is that BN is UMNO controlled and within the political system of BN is racially segregated. BN is communalistic with UMNO as the single largest party to take control of the system. At such, the democratic system evolved into a oligarchical system of administration and eventually evolved itself into a democratically tyrannical system of administration. This is Aristotle's philosophy on Politics.

Anonymous said...

Chandra: Cheap Sell Out

Captain Yusof Ahmed

I was quite appalled to read Chandra Muzaffar's very personal attack against Anwar Ibrahim (read today's the Star's report, here and also Aril Mikhail's letter to Malaysiakini, here) when he said that it will be an “unmitigated disaster” for Malaysia if Anwar becomes prime minister. Since he was a former PKR man himself, it is rather daunting to imagine the sudden wave of disillusionment that must have swept over such a 'brilliant' man and cause him to utter such balls.

I first met Dr. Chandra Muzaffar (photo) sometime in early 1983. He was then riding high as an academic cum NGO human rights activist and had been invited to speak at an Asia Pacific Regional Conference of the International Transport Workers Federation (ITF) in Kuala Lumpur, which I chaired as founder chairman of the ITF Malaysian Council. I cannot recall what he spoke about, something about union rights I think, but I remember the strike-happy Aussie dockers unions were full of praise of him and wanted cassette tape copies of his speech. I wasn't very impressed and neither was the late Dr. V. David of the Transport Workers Union, who co-chaired the conference. We believed then that it was easy to be gung-ho and say a lot things when you are not carrying the baby or be responsible for the rights and livelihood of many member workers. Perhaps there is something to be said about the old adage "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach". So perhaps also Chandra should just stick to teaching and not get involved in politics and the affairs of men. What a sell out, indeed.

http://cyusof.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

Chandra: An Intellectual Fraud

Statement: Wee Choo Keong

Dr Chandra Muzaffar, a self-proclaimed intellectual and arm-chair critic of BN of yesteryears, suddenly saw it fit to allow himself to be manipulated by the Barang Naik party to cast malicious aspersion against Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim and to indirectly influence Malaysians not to support the opposition.


This is, for all intent and purpose, an affront to basic freedom and democracy.


For a start, Chandra is just an intellectual fraud. He only pays lip-service to words like freedom and democracy.


In 1998/99 I was sacked from the DAP under strange circumstances and many other DAP leaders throughout the nation resigned from the DAP. At the same time, we were thinking of joining PKR in order to carry on our struggles against injustices, corruptions and abuses of power. During that period, Chandra was the Deputy President of PKR and he, as unreasonable as it was, saw it fit to make a unilateral declaration that all former DAP leaders were banned from joining PKR.

To say the least, this behaviour of his was absolutely bizarre and mind-boggling.

We were extremely shocked and disappointed with Chandra, whom we thought was a real democrat and a great defender of freedom and injustice. After the said infamous declaration of his putting a blanket-ban on former DAP leaders from joining PKR, we knew then that Chandra was merely an arm-chair critic and intellectual fraud when it comes to freedom and democracy.


Whatever Chandra had uttered last night at the forum organised by The Star was not unexpected given his past record. And those utterances should be consigned to the foul-smelling garbage bins much like his mouth at the time surely.


Moreover, Chandran’s vile gibberish of last night was also verbiage and an obvious act of sabotage against the people of this country.

We call upon Chandra to carry on being an arm-chair critic in his academic ‘prison’ and to immediately stop insulting the intelligence of the public.


Chandra would also do well to go back to school to re-learn the basic principles of freedom and democracy.

http://www.weechookeong.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

Chandra Criticising Anwar?

Aril Mikhail-Malaysiakini

Many years ago in the 1980s, then leader of the Labour Party in England, Denis Healey, was openly criticised for having been a member of an extreme Left political party in his younger days.

His simple response was that he also believed in Santa Claus in his younger days. Indeed, all of us – without exception – change as we age and as we learn more about life. Some more so thanothers, of course, but change we certainly do.

This, unfortunately, is something that seems to have been lost on Chandra Muzaffar in his widely – almost gleefully – published diatribe against Anwar Ibrahim in the mainstream newspapers today.

Like his equally disingenuous friends in the BN coalition who, perhaps unable to counter much of the opposition front’s critiques against the failure of BN rule, Chandra – out of the blue, after having been quiet for so long – suddenly decided to rip into Anwar.

‘He’s singing a different tune now’, asserted Chandra. Anwar ‘Deceiving Malaysians’ claimed another headline attributed to Chandra.

The gist of Chandra’s personal attack is that Anwar is saying things now that are the opposite of what he said and did when he was high up in Umno. This, of course, is nothing new and Anwar himself has addressed these criticisms often enough.

It’s a trifle ironic that Chandra is ‘coming clean’ and saying all this of Anwar now, when he himself appears to be doing the exact opposite of what he was doing when in Aliran and PKR. Before, he consistently argued against the BN having a two-thirds majority and the need for a strong opposition.

Now, on the eve of the elections, he seemingly dismisses the opposition and asserts that, despite its flaws, there is no other viable coalition beyond the BN. How fortuitous. I guess when you’ve been offered a cushy position in a state university for two years, you tend to ‘change’ somewhat.

Dear Chandra, selling out is fine. But becoming a willing tool of a corrupt, arrogant and racist regime at this critical juncture devalues, indeed destroys, whatever good work you may have done thus far. May God guide you.

http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/79148

Anonymous said...

Aliran founder a true disappointment.

Amar | Malaysiakini

For someone who heralded Abdullah Ahmad Badawi's ascendancy to premiership in 2004 by stating something to the effect that it's a once in a lifetime opportunity for Malaysians to change leadership, it is sad to note that Chandra Muzaffar now appears deluded by the invidiousness of BN's 50 years in power.

He castigates, in the mainstream papers today, opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim as being effectively anti non-Malay. The examples he quotes in the report were events that happened way before Anwar lost Dr Mahathir Mohamad’s patronage and interestingly, these were events that took place before Anwar's reformasi movement commenced.

On what basis did Chandra join PKR as deputy president given that he had reservations over Anwar's past decisions?

Does not Chandra, being an eminent political scientist, realise that people do change their opinions and principles as a result of circumstances in life? Has not Mahathir changed his 'tune' since leaving office, a tune Malaysians would have loved to hear in his 22 years as prime minister?

It is said that no one is a permanent friend or enemy in politics. This is also applicable to a rational electorate where we, as citizens, should be prepared to dump a leader if need be and likewise embrace one when they appear to be talking sense; and Anwar is talking a lot of sense presently. Likewise, does Abdullah command the confidence of right-thinking Malaysians now vis-B-vis 2004?

For all that he accuses Anwar of, does Chandra want us to list down the anti non-Malay statements made by current Umno leaders? What alternative does Chandra have in mind? Perhaps another term and a two-thirds majority in the legislature for the BN which has proven itself to be a curse on nation-building?

Chandra has single-handedly, at the eleventh hour, thrown the spanner in the works for all Malaysians looking forward to mitigating the injustices of giving the BN a two-thirds majority. Truly disappointing for someone who was the founder of Aliran.
http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/79146

Anonymous said...

It is indeed disappointing for someone who was the founder of Aliran. It has to be indicative of a hidden self agenda when consistency is so sorely lacking over time. He has seemingly shredded the last vestige of his own credibility by his latest antic.

"Chandra also said that although BN is flawed there was no other viable coalition in the country."

I call that BS, besides its also something to attend to when people come to the bridge. And people will never reach the bridge as long as BN is in power. It's disingenuous for him to say that. With intellectuals like that, who needs doofus?

yapchongyee said...

IN DEFENSE OF Dato Seri Anwar

Hey! Dr Chandra Muzaffar are you trying to dazzle the poor Malaysians with your “Doctor” whatever that stands for; please la Doc. That Phd. Does not mean shit, It does not make you more intelligent and it does not neam that you are any smater than when you started. A Phd. Just means that you had taken an in depth study of one aspect of a subject and as a matter of fact a Phd merely leads to a career in teaching, Our Asian people are so awed by that Phd., thinking that these Phd. Types Know it all, nothing is further from the truth.

Comrade Chandra to my way of thinking, and by your claims made against Dato Seri, I say that you are bloody naïve. We are all humans (I think so) and we have emotions and full of bias and prejudices; and above all we are in truth all racist. I am racist & you are racist, and the only difference between a Mahatma Ghandi type saint and an ARYAN Nazi thug is that most of us who dare claim that he is not racist (you can leave me out because I am racist) are those who’ve got a two bit claim to having higher education, a wanna be intelltual. Comrade Chandra says that Dato Seri in the past had been consistently not in favour of Chinese and maybe he is truthful, while Dr Lim Kheng Yaik claims that Dato Seri is chamileon and in Lim Kheng Yaik’s experience with Dato Seri he could be speaking the truth. Bearing in mind that we all carry a lot of baggage are we correct in our estimation of the man. We are all very complex and we are all driven by self interests; therefore what oue see is not really what is the man ! We can never tell what a man will do in all circumstances because what we see as the man is only the tip of the iceberg.

Politics is all about perception and creating an IMAGE of the politician, and we just cannot know what the whole man is in truth. For Dr Chandra & Dr Lim Kheng Yaik to say that they both ahd worked with Dato Seri and that they know the man is ingenious. Both these Dr.’s are playing their support for the BN and not quite really to give an assessment of Dato Seri for what he is factually, because that will be beyond their capability. Having said that I say both of them are naïve THAT IS NOT HOW THE GAME OF POLITICS IS PLAYED. We can only take Dato Seri at his word and the issue is therefore ARE WE HAPPY WITH HIS PROGRAMME FOR HIS GOVERNMENT ? That to my mind is all that we need to ask and we will have to take him at his word; because we just cannot do otherwise. WE DO NOT NEED TO KNOW WHAT IN TRUTH HE IS LIKE AND THAT BY OUR UNDERSTANDING HE WILL OR WILL NOT DLIVER WHAT HE HAD PROMISED FOR THE ELECTION. There is no need to go too far out of the way; ask yourselves what had BN promised for the last election (1999) and did BN deliver ? I do not think so !

Dato Seri and the United Front of DAP, PAS and Keadilan HAS MADE IT THEIR PLATFORM that if elected he and his United Front will deliver a GOVERNMENT FOR ALL MALAYSIANS AND TO STEP BACK FROM RACE BASED POLITICS. That is what we must accept for the truth; and if he ever fail to deliver then the next election vote him and his United Front out. This is what will therefore develop into a TWO PARTY POLITICAL STRUCTURE. Is this not what we want, and what is the profit if we just not believe him and we merely take the word og the two Dr.’s both of them are pretentious and know it all. I say do not listen to them shooting hot air. VOTE OPPOSITION and let 2 party politics develop.

Unknown said...

I would give Anwar the benefit of doubt for reason that he had gone to jail, suffered enough and had over these period learnt much about social integration and harmony. He has matured and grown wiser.
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I agrees with you Mav. This Candra is obviously senile as other BN people. They are in dire need for psychiatric help. Chandra is turning moron. that being the case, he deserves to be what he is now.... just look at him!

warrior2 said...

AND now, NALA has spoken!

Anonymous said...

Chandra was forced to leave PKR wasn`t he? Marina Yusof who left before him, was quite candid with her unkind opinions of Chandra.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Chandra only damages his own credibility

There are many local academics and intellectuals who share positive opinions on Anwar Ibrahim but only Chandra Muzaffar's bitter attacks against him are highlighted in the mainstream media. I do not think one needs to be very educated formally to understand the reason why the Universities and University Colleges Act (UUCA) does not apply to Chandra Muzaffar whenever he lashes out at the former DPM publicly. According to a retired academic who attended The Star-Asian Centre for Media Forum on the 2008 Malaysian General Election at Menara Star on 3 March (Monday), Chandra Muzaffar has "really succeeded" in damaging or even destroying his own credibility by re-launching "a very bitter and vindictive" attacks on Anwar Ibrahim's "past records" in the BN government. If Chandra Muzaffar has always known Anwar's "past records" in BN, why did he not castigate Anwar while he was in power and why he (Chandra) also continued to support Anwar in the period from 1998 to 1999 and also became Parti Keadilan Nasional's deputy president and its parliamentary candidate in the 1999 general election? Another good Christian friend who also attended the forum opines that whatever his "past records" in the BN government, Anwar has 'cleansed' himself by his willingness to suffer grave injustices and tortures from 1998 to 2004, and also by working hard now to oppose BN's unjust policies. Seen in light, Anwar is definitely a better person than those in the BN who still refuses to make amends for the better. Has Dr. Chandra Muzaafar himself changed for the better or worse ?


http://jameswongwingon-online.blogspot.com/2008/03/why-bn-s-media-loves-dr-chandra.html

Anonymous said...

More than a message to Chandra

What about a manipulation by the Barang Naik party?


http://www.skthew.com/2008/03/04/more-than-a-message-by-yb-wee-choo-keong/

Anonymous said...

warrior2 who happens to have a blog but fails to update it and inform others finds it easy to spend sleepless nights in convincing people of the goodness of BN and the how reliable people like Nalla can be. Hogwash! I never thought a person can descend into such a level.

warrior2 said...

Anon 1122 am, I post articles in my blog when I feel like it. I dont impose conditions on myself.

I only write during the day time and weekdays at that.

I am not out to convince that BN is good. The opposition is not a better alternative for the moment.

I am only informing that Nalla had also spoken. How is it that when 2 close aides said something bad about anwar, they become the centre of ridicule? They become the target.

But I also understand that when one is taksub about an idol one will/cant find no faults with the idol. So when Chandra and nalla lambasted anwar, they are the devils. If lets say, 2 former big guns of BN sing praises of anwar now, THEy being called devils when they were with BN, will now be saluted and praised. That I am sure because thats how some poeple operate!

Anonymous said...

Eh...I can't discount the possibility Chandra old boy palm (or mouth ?) has been greased by Barang Naik aka Barisan Najis Gang.

bongkersz said...

Ah, it is so convenient suddenly all the revelations about AI now? Chandra Muzaffar, Lim Keng Yaik singing the same tune. The Abdullah chipped in. And today Nalla joined in as well! AI is never great. All of us here agreed he did many mistakes in the past. And those mentioned was what he did in the past. When he was toeing the line for racist UMNO and yes he played his card well. Most UMNO politicians play that way to climb the pedestal. He did what he need to do. But, now he is a leader of a multiracial party. It is a different game, do you think he is stupid to gather the trust of many Chinese, Indians, Malays and all Malaysian now just to throw it away when he's in power by going against his promises? That's suicidal.

Cruel Angel said...

I dont give a d*Mn to any words a traitor said.

He can help BN today, tomolo another party.

THis is the image of a traitor.

I wonder how much did he receive?

Maverick SM said...

Nurani,

Thanks and I had visited Captain Yusof's blog.

And I too had visited Wee's blog.

But I don't intend to read Aril Mikhail's article in Malaysiakini.

And I believed Chandra had done more damage to his own integrity.

Wits0,

Chandra had sold his soul and I think he may be interested to get the job of a V-C in MU or USM.

Yapchongyee,

I had replied this comment of yours in the other articles.

Ling Ling Chatt,

Hi 007, when the only choice is between two devils, one that had lost it's fangs and the other who is growing longer and sharper, we know our choice.

Warrior2,

Nala had spoken but there's no credibility of a man who betrayed a friend of 30 years and the stabbings were part of his same philosophy when he was sack from MIC. Chandra's points in the dialogue with TheStar was something we Malaysians of Chinese and Indian origins would want Anwar to provide an answer, irrespective of his current political philosophy.

Maverick SM said...

Just Maybe,

You surely bet he has some personal interest in something else.

Bongkersz,

In fact most politicians do along their journey in their political life evolve in their thoughts and belief system. As an example, look at Mahathir and Najib.

We can't live in the past but we are concerned about the future and the general election is the process which decides the next legislators and government of the day. As such, we citizens have to exercise our wisdom and bear the consequences thereof for another 4 years.

CruelAngel,

It's not about a traitor; it's about a person who is willing to betrayed his friend; it's about morality and integrity of a person.