Tuesday, May 20, 2008

Umno: Crushed and crashed with Mahathir

In 1988, Tengku Razaleigh crushed Umno and was pivotal in causing Umno to be deregistered.

However, Mahathir was quick to form Umno Baru which replaces the old Umno and became it's first member.

The new Umno was rebuilt to become much stronger until Anwar's sacking in 1998 and the birth of Reformasi and KeADILan which causes some ripples but did not have much impact.

The March08 election saw the new beginning of a two party system of government with the birth and rise of Pakatan Rakyat who captured 5 States. But Umno remains intact though there's much political power-play maneuvering.

However, today, Mahathir decided to do one act, an act that would ultimately crush Umno and leave it without a probable chance to resurrect. It was a bad decision; for Mahathir and for Umno and I believed Mahathir will live to regret what he did today. Equally, it can be observed that this day would also mark the beginning of division and turmoil; the nation would suffer and the divide would not be good; the divided Umno would have to instill racial discontent and fear by rhetorics; the divided groups would have to form camps and uses the race cards to influence support.

Umno is likely to be divided into 3 to 4 camps - Pak Lah's camp, Najib's camp, Mahathir & sons Ltd, and possibly Tengku Razaleigh's camp. Will we also see a 5th camp - the Muhyiddin & partners Ltd? (Musa Hitam may throw his weight behind Muhyiddin or possibly team up with his ex-partner, Tengku Razaleigh). Each of these camps would have to influence the existing members over - with what? Race cards, fear and conspiracy doctrines - the only tools readily available.

Could Pak Lah hold the reins tightly and could his super-intelligent son-in-law come up with some super strategies to keep Umno intact? I have reservations; Rise-if-Possible (R.I.P.)

It seems the clash of civilization cannot be avoided unless a new visionary and strong leader emerged from within Umno. I don't think Najib has the necessary charisma and intellect; Tengku Razaleigh is only a spoiler; Mahathir is past his time; Muhyiddin is the only dark horse available. Only the likes and qualities of Raja Dr Nazrin fits that role but he is a royalty and the Raja Muda of Perak who would succeed his father to become the Sultan of Perak.

Could Malaysia survive this tumultuous time? I pray!

38 comments:

Anonymous said...

I don't think there will be immediate exodus. It'll be a slow deterioration followed by a long healing time. Few terms in the opposition bench will be good for the soul.

Jefus said...

labor pains to a new era, end of one party dominance, like Taiwan

Anonymous said...

all kj's fault. upset che det and everyone else. :)

Anonymous said...

"Could Pak Lah hold the reins tightly and could his Could Pak Lah hold the reins tightly and could his super-intelligent son-in-law.
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super-intelligent son-in-law? Super intelligent in screwing up, or getting members riled up with his meteoric rise in umno,super intelligent in pissing Tun off?

What is he super intelligent in? The only reason he is where he is, is that he is SIL of PM..me thinks.

Trashed said...

As jefus mentioned, end of one party dominance. It has happened in Taiwan, Japan, India and even in Zimbabwe.

Malaysia will survive and another UMNO Baru will emerge or maybe a few Malay based parties that will cater for different idealogies - far right, right, centrists (all within the Malaysian context, of course).

Perhaps Mahathir's legacy will be the breaking down of race based politics .. albeit in a Malaysian, rather than Malay way.

Either way, this man is one the shrewdest minds around and does not like to be upstaged.

Anonymous said...

In my opinion, this is the best political 'sandiwara'!

Quit at UMNO weakest moment? From the great Machiavelli of UMNO? Unbelievable, right?

That's what all about? Don't be easily deceived by a well thought political leader.

Why?

At the crucial moment of rumours that BN MPs crossing over to the opposition, what else?

I think the best political cheese is being offered!

Remind me of a Christmas song...'You better watch out.'

The opposition SHOULD be very careful!

Anonymous said...

I think you are over reacting, Mahatir days are well passed, not many umno members will follow him to quit the party to pressure Abdullah to step down.

The power and influence of incumbency as PM is tremendous in Malaysia.

Anonymous said...

Aiya, the Tun already very old man,
I don't think he can wait untill Pak Lah quit, so you chaps don't listen to him,this old man and all his "machai" already very-very-very rich,don't beleive ? ask Daim ,ask Sanusi

Anonymous said...

Told you! Mana itu ketuanan?

No such thing and the non-Malays should not be paranoid. We have a way of f**king ourselves up.

Muhyuddin for PM? You got to be joking. He f**ked the Chinese big time Johore and now you rooting for him?

Tell Shahrir to shut up and put his money where his mouth is and run for PM.

Anonymous said...

I propose that the new PM should be Azizan, the former personal driver of Anwar. He's quite good at "hadapan boleh, belakang pun boleh"

Unknown said...

IMHO

Malays should be 'United' under the Leader that brought progress to the Party, in this case, en masse resignation in support of Tun Dr Mahathir.

The situation now confirms that the Malays are and will continuingly not 'United' even though they are trying to potray to the world front that their people are 'United'.

Pak Lah has spent enough time and wasted billions of tax payers monies on his family well beings that can be regarded as shadow Mugabe, himself.

Najib, being the Son of Razak got the DPM job easily is unable to perform like a DPM, but more of an inpotent role.

The Country is moving into chaos if political situations not improving, or if Anwar Ibrahim remains not in Leadership. He is the only hope as many seen him the Asian Mandela in the Making.

Mugabe in reining not only in Africa, but in OIC too. Surprising the Arabs, remain daft and dumb continues supporting the 'Fair' Mugabe of Pak Lah in running OIC and promoting Halal industry.

None of the above Leaders studied the success of Germans and its past history; very sad indeed.

Anonymous said...

nobody will join mahathir and quit. even his son Mukhriz won't heed his father advise as well. it's just pure nuts to do so.

he ask people to quit, and do what? wait for PM to quit and then go back? what if he takes another 1 or 2 years before deciding to do so? so stay at home and taman jagung? Dr. M is foolish this time, when he ask people to quit, he must give them a better platform, eg forming a new party to get the UMNO people there and then rebuild. It's silly to ask people out and then wait. hey, not everbody is retired like him... ok.

mahathir has taken a wrong gamble this time. karpal is right about this guy, he take it personally that PM is out to dispose his in jail, after the report on the jurisdiction. he don't understand even PM is not above law, at least unlike his period. so he is taking it all out again PM and unseat him. it won't work cos even if badawi is unstable in the moment, i doubt he can go just like that if he put his feet down.

yapchongyee said...

I, on second thoughts, may have been out foxed by the wily and mighty Tun Mahatir. I think I must give Tun Mahatir more credit than I have does so far. I have to consider that he was shrewd enough to survive 22 years as President of UMNO so he must know moret than I give him credit for.

How about looking at the big picture, LIKE MAHATIR NOW SEE THE ERRORS OF HIS PREVIOUS LIFE AS PRESIDENT OF UMNO, and now would like to correct it for the good of Malaysia ? This is one way of looking at the issue. Therefore ask yourself the question, “IF I WERE MAHATIR WHAT IS THE MOST IMPORATNT THING THAT I HAVE TO DO TO PUT MALAYSIA ON THE WORLD MAP ? DO I WANT A MALAYSIA THAT IS DIVIDED & FOR EVER FIGHTING ONE FACTION AGAINST ANOTHER OR DO I WANT A MALAYSIA THAT IS UNITED AND PEACEFUL; with all the races living side by side and in harmony, like the Malaysia of the OLD DAYS when Malays, Indians & Chinese mixing as friends and neighbours ? I like to use a turn of phrase that Mahatir often uses to denigrate Australia; COLOUR BAR ! Is it good for Malaysia to have a system of COLOUR BAR ? I don’t think so but that is what Ketuaan Malayu means ! Therefore since Mahatir is so disapproving of COLOUR BAR, will he not want to do away with colour bar ?

Therefore looking at all these issues that Mahatir will not approve is it therefore not conceivable that Mahatir want to change these evils that dogs our society ? In the perpetration of all these evils WHAT IS IT THAT PERPETUATES THESE PROBLEMS ? It is in truth the perpetuation of the single problem THE PROBLEM OF WHAT REALLY DIVIDES THE PEOPLE & CITIZENS OF MALAYSIA; THE EXISTENCE OF THE IDEA OF KETUAAN MELAYU. Therefore for me to see this as a problem, what will make this evil cancer go away ? This cancer will only go away if those who lead UMNO will also go away and how to achgieve this, IS TO WEAKEN UMNO SO THAT THIS CANCER CANNOT FIND SUPPORT.

I believe this is the objective of Tun Mahatir in doing all he can and did to weaken UMNO. The Malaysian political scene today has destroyed the obvious dominance of UMNO. That is the truth on the ground whether the leadership of UMNO will accept it or not; Malay dominance is gone for good ! The rationale for this opinion is simple maths. Malays = 68%, Chinese = 24% (swinging voters) and Indians = 8% but Malay voters is divided into 2 camps that reduces their vote bank to 34%. No matter what the Malays do they will not be able to dilute the Chinese swing votes, because the Chinese do not trust MCA and rightly so. The Chinese must never ever trust MCA again because for 50 years MCA was in fact UMNO side kick, bloody Malay cock suckers !

Maverick SM said...

Hasilox,

I think you could have read and taken TM's resignation lightly.

Many will follow; for they are those who did not get their loots within the oligarchy. There are also those who are left out; there are also those who are disenchanted; and there are also those who promotes Najib, Muhyiddin and T.Razaleigh.

Jefus,

I am suffering from paranoia and have greater anxieties over the current state of affairs.

Artchan,

Well, you do not appreciate events and you fails to see the schemer at work.

Trashed,

I differ; TDM's move and his impending work will now be with the right wing NGOs and the force of Ketuanan doctrine.

Oris,

Factionalism is the current situation and the rise of chauvinism.

Maverick SM said...

Yapchongyee,

I think you got your maths and philosophical analysis wrong altogether.

Mahathir is a man who can never believed he can be wrong in all things except his choice of PM and DPM.

In fact Mahathir is leaning to the left wings support group to gather strength and dissenting groups to overthrow the current regime.

Mahathir will remain forever a chauvinist and a racist in order to promote himself and to remain relevant. Power to him is everything. He singlehandedly caused the paradigm of mediocrity and left the Malays to grope in the dark when he promoted a group of elite billionaires, exploited the NEP to the fullest and built the Malay Dilemma inculcating fear and phobias using Ketuanan conceptualisation to cause the Malays to live in distress and anxieties whereby it promotes racial divide and religious bigots.

Read his latest speech in Johor and digest his doctrines.

yapchongyee said...

Mahatir quits UMNO !

It is indeed sad to read so many fawning accolades that Tun Mahatir is such a great leader and such like. It just shows how blinkered you Malays are; you just do not have vision and you are so naïve that you do not fully appreciate your own predicament. Has Mahatir been a good and caring leader ? This generation of Malays will say that he is, but it will be history that will judge Mahatir as the most self serving and selfish leader, who has no clue what he was doing. I am Chinese living in Australia and it does not worry me too much to say what is best said without any fear or embellishment; just say it as it is.

Mahatir created an illusion that Malays benefited by his one sided pervasion of the Constitution; but I will not go into that area because there is no useful purpose to state what is obvious(too much energy wasted ). Let me ask you was HITLER a great leader ? From your reaction you Malays will say, “YES”. Hitler too had the German people fawning after him as their FEURER Sounds like the word “father”, yes Hitler was the father to the German people, but was he a good leader ?

I see a direct comparison between Hitler and Mahatir, they both created the myth that the Jews and the Chinese are suck the blood of the Malays and the Aryan German people. I am fully convinced that Mahatir had learned a great deal from both Goerbels and Hitler; this comparison is uncanny ! The question that I want to ask is “IF IT WERE IN THE POWER OF MAHATIR TO GAS 5 MILLION CHINESE WILL MAHATIR HESITATE ? I will ask the Malays, if it were in your power to gas 8 million Chinese, will you do it ? I say without hesitation that you would ! Malaysia and UMNO has called the tragedy of May 13th a “RIOT” but it is in scale cruelty and destructiveness a pogrom and in the history of Nazism, there was a similar pogrom called the Crystalnach (crystal night) and it also marked the beginning of the extermination of the Jews. The same sort of discrimination against the Jews are today practiced on the non Malays only it is justified by that grossly misunderstood social contract. There was never ever been any social contract and I say it as my own understanding of this bullshit social contract, when did the UMNO ever implemented any social contract; it was a case of the Malays taking it all for themselves ! Can Chinese go and obtain a Banking license ? Can Chinese go and obtain a government contract without a Malays holding 51% equity in the tendering company ? The Chinese has to put up 100% money capital and expertise and GET ONLY 49% OF WHAT IS LEFT AFTER THE MALAY CHAIRMAN HAS GRABED 60% OF THE PROFITS. THIS WAS EXACTLY THE SITUATION THAT EXISTED UNDER HITLER AND IT STILL EXIST IN MALAYSIA.

Mahatir had perverted the system and polarized Malaysia, on the one side Malays and on the other side, the Chinese. Among the Chinese, those who can leave Malaysia for better climes. It will not be in this generation that you Malays will see Mahatir for what he really is. Mahatir wanted to be another Robert Mugabe, a 94 year old man still clinging on to power; WHAT FOR ? I had said it once that Mahatir appointed the weakest of his Ministers AAB to be his successor because Mahatir wanted to control AAB like a puppet on a string, but from the very first days of that fateful election AAB had uncoupled Mahatir from Aab’s influence. That was when trouble started.

The reason why I say that Mahatir will be judge by history as the most retarding force that held back the progress of the Malay people is because he created the myth of the
Chinese being the EXPLOITERS of the Malays and in so doing HE WON OVER CONTROL OF THE MALAYS. This too was how Hitler controlled the German people by creating the myth of the superior Aryan race that saw the Jews as the sub-human and to do what they wanted with the Jews.

The full rigors of Mahatirs exploitation of the weakness of the Malays cannot be assessed today (can’t see the forest for the trees), but reading a few of the comments from some Malays, we can see that this truth is creeping out and very soon it will be a flood. Let me discuss this aspect of the debate by questions rather than answers. Why and to what purpose is it beneficial for the Malays to retard and BLOCK the progress of the Chinese ? If a Chinese becomes rich by his own sweat and hard work and business talent, HOW DO YOU MALAYS EQUATE THIS PERFORMANCE TO EXPLOITATION ? Is this to be viewed as a zero sum equation, ie if the Chinese makes a profit then it must also mean that the Malay will not make any profit ? How can that argument hold when we all know that the Malays are not in business as the Chinese are ? This deals with the issues relating to obtaining licenses to do business.

Mahatir by giving all scholarships to Malays and to those Malays who are connected reduced the selection of Malay scholars to a very small clique, hence the best Malays are kept out of these scholarships. Those who graduated under this system of patronage graduate as useless “pen-pushers”, who can only gain work in the government services. Billions are wasted training nothing but graduates who can only work as clerks. This patronage did not develop a class of competent entrepreneurs and therefore for 50 years Malaysia has been producing too many incompetent GENERALS and not enough soldiers.

This was the legacy of the Mahatir years; years that develop nothing that is worth mentioning as his contribution towards developing a competitive Malaysian society. YES YOU MALAYS TAKE ALL BUT CAME OUT WITH NOTHING.

There is one other point that I want to raise, which is that Mahatir ploy to undermine ABB will fizzle out like a wet cracker ! Mahatir is naïve because only an incumbent can win supporters; a retired PM is like a retired GENERAL, nobody listens to a retired general because one just cannot get anything from a retired general ! Another word, I do not believe that Tengku Li can benefit from the rumblings within UMNO because ABB is the incumbent and power resides in the incumbent.

Anonymous said...

mave,

I agree, if badawi is bad, then think of a badder sicko ass, and you get our ex-PM there.

Anonymous said...

Er... Mahathir who ?

Jefus said...

Hi Mav,

Me thinks u r reading too much into the tea leaves. He is trying to curry favor from the chauvinists because he is bad news to the mainstream UMNO, a passe....

Can he bring down UMNO single handedly? 24 hours has passed, there is still no earthquake in the party......

Often times, the unexpected results, possibly UMNO grassroots will begin to rally around Pak Lah?....

Anonymous said...

yapchongyee, the only Chinese who is being deprived is you!

You talk nonsense.

Banking license? Public Bank who? Hong Leong Bank who? Only bank with Malay individual owner is AMBank.. that too with Chinese partners. All other 'malay' banks are government owned. Government contracts? ERL who? SMART tunnel who? Genting SANYEN who? Go do your homework first before you open your big mouth.

I got a good mind to look for you first in the next riot!

yapchongyee said...

SORRY WE DO NOT DO RIOTS IN AUSTRALIA !

yapchongyee said...

Greetings Comrade Maverick !

I of course did not mean it literally, that Mahatir is today a changed man, but my piece on this issue was to use literary license, by positing Mahatir as seeking a correction of his errors, and in so doing I am able to pose the questions that I posed in my opinion. It is often to ask questions than to write straight out opinions.

That being the case my purpose is to ask the questions and do the questions make any sense ? Do you want a Malaysia that is divided by racial violence ? My math is that the 68% Malay votes is divided by two opposing political idealogy if I may say so. To illustrate my point if PKR takes in the next election 40% of the Malay votes that leaves UMNO with 28% and if UMNO get to convince the Chinese to throw their support to UMNO then their 24% will give UMNO 52%, that will take UMNO to 52%, while PKR take 40% Which ever way you look at the issue, the Chinese swing vote bank will give government to the side that wins Chinese support; of course the Indians too count !
That is the reality on the ground, and it is to Chinese interests not to commit to any party, neither DAP nor MCA. Our strength is in our individuality and our own selfish interests.

CK said...

wow... i read bt TDM "mundur" from UMNO. note that the " " is due to the indonesian vocab. miss ur blog lah mave but i have to enjoy my holiday first!!!!

gd day.

Unknown said...

Tuesday May 20, 2008 MYT 6:23:34 PM
Mukhriz not quitting, urges PM to step down (updated)


KUALA LUMPUR: Umno Youth executive council member Datuk Mukhriz Mahathir said he is not resigning from Umno, but reiterated his call for Datuk Seri Abdullah Badawi to step down as prime minister and party president.

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/5/20/nation/20080520160858&sec=nation

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too many TALK CKOC leaders in UMNO lah; this factor wont make UMNO last more than 55 years (to be exact!).

every UMNO leader, be small or big, only concern about their own personal wealth... sources unknown, even to their ownselves too.

thim-kai... ngor em-cchii thouuu!

Anonymous said...

Quote :
"The new Umno was rebuilt to become much stronger until Anwar's sacking in 1998"

Hmmmm, stronger? I doubt, but "Powerful", I agree. After the "reborn", umno has ceased most of its check and balance. It become more "powerful", but money politics and corruption become the part of umno culture.

Arena Green said...

Mukhriz being so quick to declare he's not quitting UMNO is a good joke, isn't it? And very telling too ...

Anonymous said...

Problems started when we are pre-occupied with EGO...

instead of giving, we starts taking

instead of sharing, we starts hoarding

instead of loving, we starts hating

instead of helping, we starts punishing

instead of creating, we starts destroying

So, we should quit our EGO (Edging God Out)and starts learning to live like our HIM.

~~~beeranyone

Anonymous said...

Maverick, don't worry , even though Abdullah is incompetence, but as he is the PM who holds immense power , he will not be toppled by Mahathir's urging others in leaving umno.

Ku Li (or coolie ?)even with the support of two former PMs (Hussein Onn and Abdul Rahman )did not manange to defeat Mahathir, what makes you think Mahathir can do it this time around ?

Jason ANG Kian You , 汪建佑 said...

From Dr M resignation to a nation Economy and politic problem......I worry Malaysia future

Dr M resignation will further weaken the Malaysia political stability, from the economic point of view, as a normal citizen we are worry about the current global problem like commodity price is raising , obviously the Oil is the main issue. USA have a sign of economic downturn already, this will be impact to Malaysia sooner or later. The former Deputy PM of Singapore Dr Tan had warned Singaporean to be get ready for the next economic turmoil.

Lets look into above matter added the instability of Malaysia political issue, would Malaysia will hit by both issue ? This is the worry, if both Economical and political issue hit our beloved Malaysia, are we strong enough like 1997 to solve the above both problem.

Today i just got some Singapore dollar from Singapore to exchange to Malaysia Ringgit, surprisingly SGD1 is equal to RM2.363. This should be the highest in this year.are this the sign of economy turmoil is coming?................

Further to this , the global natural disaster in Myanmar and china also further worsen the world economy. as a IT and Businessman , i have a feeling that the economy nightmare is coming............... be ready.........

Maverick SM said...

Jefus,

I hope you are right and I am wrong; I suffered form paranoia.

Yapchongyee,

We had to be sensitive to all readers who comes from different background and have other opinions and beliefs. Being constructive and critical is fine; but just be reminded that this is a place for everyone to share opinions, but diatribes.

I appreciate every intellectual discourse but lets not be a chauvinist or bigots.

CK,

Have a good holiday and enjoy yourself.

Ling Ling Chatt,

I think thats not a fair statement; not every Umno members had such privilege to act as such.

Moo_t,

You may be right but I think I believed in my statement.

Anak Merdeka,

Mukhriz wants something and waits for something to happen.

Beeranyone,

Great poem; thanks.

ARL,

Thanks for the comforting words and I hope Pak Lah can overcome the confidence crisis.

Maverick SM said...

Jason Ang,

I share your views and concerns; but we seems to be lonely in our views.

If we economy turns turtle,and coupled with the political turmoils within Umno, who is the ruling party and of whom the Malays rely as their 'protector' and with Mahathir turning to the left wing, the signs are not good for the common good of the people.

Anonymous said...

Dr M is underestimating Pak Lah. I dont think he is that easily swayed by by pressure, judging from the past. It'll take more than that. ANd the whole Mahathir-Mukriz inside and outside umno strategy is realllllly smart and mischievious move for sure.

Maverick SM said...

Sandyow,

I don't think Mahathir underestimate Pak Lah; he is trying hard to unsettle him and cause dissents to surface. It's strategic.

yapchongyee said...

My money is on Pak Lah, because he is the incumbent and those who retire do not have shit to play with. UMNO is a big organization and no one man’s bitterness will move the whole movement. Support is about what you can get out of supporting, if there are no goodies at the other end, support is all hot air.

Mahatir thinks that he can unseat the incumbent because he is the “MAN” but I have said it before and I say it now, his antics will fizzle out like a wet cracker. However, I think Mahatir has more mischief planned for the upcoming UMNO General Assembly set for December. I have said earlier that there is an uncanny similarity between Hitler and our great man Mahatir, and as I said before, Mahatir must have learned a lot from the history of Hitler; and like Hitler who believed that the German people are not worthy of his achievements and they let him down, similarly he will take the Malays down with him. The similarity between Hitler and Mahatir are astounding because Hitler was not German, he was an Austrian, and it is said by his biographer that Hitler was in fact a Jew; well our Mahatir too is not Malay but a “mamak”.

One of the anonymous respondents to my opinion said that he will want to look for me in another May 13; but to him I say no such luck, I live in Australia. Then there is this latest post that says WTF (what is WTF ?) and goes on to threaten me with another May 13. What a couple of arsehole !

I say to my Chinese brother & sisters not to be intimidated by another May 13th; you need to pick up your balls and stand your grounds whatever happens. You my Chinese brothers & sisters, have won the coveted position of the SWING VOTERS, and you must never ever give up that position.

Malaysia had a population of a mere 10 million at the time of Merdeka. Just 10 million of which at that time 3.5 million Chinese. China was then ranked maybe 100 of 194 nations at the UN. Malaysia was then quite well endowed and can be described as middlingly wealthy, and on a per capita basis Malaysia was much better off than China was; that I am afraid was what it was in 1957; but today 50 years later and 30 years from President Nixon’s visit and the first opening up of China, our motherland is today 2nd only to the USA and by a report just released by the world bank just 2 months ago, CHINA WILL SURPASS THE USA BY 2030 AS NUMBER ONE !

China has a population of 1.3 billion very poor people and it took her a mere 30 years to become 2nd biggest economy in the world; IF YOU MALAYS ARE SO GREAT THEN HOW IS IT WITH ALL THE GOVERNMENT HAND OUTS OVER 50 YEARS YOU ARE STILL MIRED IN THE MUD ?

To the two anonymous the moderator did not published my response to your NIT PICKING ! It is obvious you have never participated in any debate. You merely tried to insult me but you did not raise any debating point in your favour.

Maverick SM said...

Yapchongyee,

I do not think you are a kid and would react to a kid's voice of virtual bigotry. Now you have made yourself one and this is an unwanted blitzkrieg.

No one can threaten anyone; and that includes you and me. I hope we are in a forum to discuss relevant issues and critical thoughts which are beneficial to all readers and commentators.

Please leave those bigotry and insidious comments aside and respond to only the ones who would surface themselves.

I tried not to respond to those anons eventhough they tried to pour fuel to ignite fire here. I will delete those comments that are non-beneficial and personal.

Let's not be childish and immature. Let's show the others the intellectuality in our discussions and hope that the others will participate with an intent to gain knowledge and enhance the discussions for the betterment of the society.

Let's be positive.

yapchongyee said...

Greetings Maverick !

I apologise to you for my mistake; I was in fact responding to two Anonymous respondents ON ROCKY BRU SITE on the same topic. Sorry my mistake !

Anonymous said...

to threathen someone is a crime, not to mentioned if it's done in the covert of another may13 incident. and it's a more crime especially if you threaten to pull the pants that belong to a influential family. I bet this means well connected in the political arena. else how to get the police to do your bidding.

in malaysia, if you are well connected, you can away with murder, rape and etc with minimal consequences, or none at all if no media coverage. and best of all you can even get the police to do it for you, they got the guns and C4 to help you.

Anonymous said...

here's the url on the incident. http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/news/story/0,4136,165397,00.html?