Wednesday, February 20, 2008

Phantom Voters - Plentiful

Many Malaysians may not know that Uniformed servicemen such as police, army, navy and air force personnels may be made to vote twice at different places and different state; probably one at their current workplace/residence and another time at their home town or birth place. It is possible that one of the location would be by postal voted and at another place he will be in person.

I read this news at caffeinbar, and then at Flaccid Mind, which provides another link at Taraknama.

We have two examples here below:

I.D: T715511
Nama: Amran B. Zainuddin
Tarikh Lahir: 04 Jan 1967
Jantina: Lelaki
Lokaliti: TUDM B’Worth
Daerah Mengundi: Jalan Mesjid
Dun: Telok Ayer Tawar
Parlimen: Tasek Glugor
Negeri: Pulau Pinang
Polling Center: Pos
Serial No: 363



I.D: 670104075529 / A0624038
Nama: Amran B. Zainuddin
Tarikh Lahir: 04 Jan 1967
Jantina: Lelaki
Lokaliti: Jln Tok Muda Hj Mohamad
Daerah Mengundi: Pekan Karak
Dun: Sabai
Parlimen: Bentong
Negeri: Pahang
Polling Center: Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan, Karak
Serial No: 864

So, En Amran will cast his votes in Telok Ayer Tawar (DUN) and Tasek Glugor (Parliament), Penang by post and he personally will go back to vote at Sabai (DUN) and Bentong (Parliament), Pahang


I.D: T719756
Nama: Hazely Razin Bin Yaakub
Tarikh Lahir: 09 Sep 1975
Jantina: Lelaki
Lokaliti: TUDM B’Worth
Daerah Mengundi: Jalan Mesjid
Dun: Telok Ayer Tawar
Parlimen: Tasek Glugor
Negeri: Pulau Pinang
Polling Center: Pos
Serial No: 1019


I.D: 750909035727 / A3170255
Nama: Hazely Razin Bin Yaakub
Tarikh Lahir: 09 Sep 1975
Jantina: Lelaki
Lokaliti: Kg. Bharu
Daerah Mengundi: Kampung Bharu Sungai
Dun: Pasir Pekan
Parlimen: Tumpat
Negeri: Kelantan
Polling Center: Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan Mahmud Mayidin,
Serial No: 1032


So, its the same for En Hazely who will having to use postal votes at Telok Ayer Tawar (DUN) and Tasek Glugor (Parliament), Penang and he personally goes back to Kelantan to vote at Pasir Pekan (DUN) and Tumpat (Parliament), Kelantan.

If MAFREL and the opposition parties would get a list of all the army, navy and armed forces personnels and their ID numbers, including the police, Rela, government servants and must include all UMNO, MCA, MIC, Gerakan and PPP members, we can run through a thorough check to discover the amount of phantom voters.

Double voting; that's why they win big and win all the time!

I hope those Election Watch organizations and NGOs would scrutinize the voters list at SPR. Maybe, the Agong may need to step in and get the SPR to be audited.


In fact, I too run a check on the two persons above, each twice using their Tentera ID and also using their NRD ID to confirm that such double voting exists.

You too can check it at http://daftarj.spr.gov.my/daftarbi.asp



Note: The last of two pictures of the six is captured in 2007 whereas the above four are captured today.

31 comments:

the Constantly Dramatic One said...

Wow, these people have never heard of keeping it clean. Le sigh.

Maverick SM said...

Constant_Drama,

They kept it clean, unknown to all, and clean sweep!

This is how elections were conducted.

Anonymous said...

spread the words man! :) so malaysians aware of how 'clean' and transparent our SPR is.

Maverick SM said...

Bongkersz,

Thanks for the information. Please get more and we will blog and inform the public.

Chauncey Gardener said...

With the electoral tarnished with cases like these, the GE should be postponed to "clear the decks" so that whichever party wins can say that the electoral rolls were not tampered.

Or can someone pinch me, please ?

Why hasn't this been mainstream reported ? Wake me up , please !

Anonymous said...

IT MUST BE SOME TECHNICAL HICCUPS OR CASES OF MISTAKEN IDENTITIES...

THE ELECTORAL ROLL HAVE BEEN GIVEN A CLEAN BILL BY THE GREAT IMAM OF ISLAM HADHARI.

AS A GOD FEARING PERSON AND THE CHAIRMAN OF OIC, REPRESENTING EVERY MUSLIMS IN WORLD, HE WON'T CHEATS... RIGHT?

...BARISAN RAKYAT

Maverick SM said...

Chauncey Gardener,

We will have to let the political leaders and the Election Watchdogs act.

Barisan Rakyat,

You may be right; It didn't cross my mind...

Anonymous said...

They vote or auto voting? This phantom system sets us apart in the first-class apple category. Should it be called the Apple Phantom System?! lol

zewt said...

i also read in some blog that they are supposed to vote in some god forsaken land...

the govt is bent on winning ... at all cost eh?

Anonymous said...

and rashid will say that's the prerogative of being army......

lucia said...

but these are not phantom voters according to SPR. as i had explained in comments of one of your other posts, there are 3 definitions of phantom voters by 3 different groups! (SPR, political parties, NGOs).

mave, i also blog on army phantom voters today.

Anonymous said...

care to blog about loh seng kok being dumped ??

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/2/20/nation/20370431&sec=nation

Maverick SM said...

Hasilox,

You are right; it's autovote!

Zewt,

Ya, the govt will win, at all cost.

Denzook,

You may be right too.

Lucia,

MAFREL talks about the army personnel registered at the abandoned camp but didn't do a search of the same guys who are also voters at their home town.

Denzook,

Loh Seng Kok is dead meat; his advert board had been defaced. We'll wait for more news of him.

Anonymous said...

Can the opposition parties or NGO take the matter to court ?

Hope said...

It's like an open secret where everyone knows about it but nothing is being done.. shouldn't someone do something about this? maybe we should do something. petition maybe? or another rally?

Maverick SM said...

Hopeful,

Ya, it's open secret; Bersih has petitioned the Agong; nothing can be done in an autocratic system. Even the courts, we can read from the Royal Commission testimonies of how judges works with the businessmen; what more the political powers.

Anonymous said...

Actually, if the watchgroup want to dig it and SPR refuse to cooperate,
one can run a script to scan the whole SPR website.

If a machine sit in the same data center where the server sit on, the script can grab ~100 records/seconds, provided the firewall didn't block the massive connection as DDoS attack. To grab all the army IC no, it took less than 4 hours.

But the legality on getting those data will be gray area, since Malaysia lack strong privacy protection law (exception to those raja-raja)

Anonymous said...

the phantom voters a not hantu after all, but two-legged humans with hantu heart.

interesting.

Blow d' whistle said...

please with all due respect ... separate the BN tag with the government tag

i'm working with the government... and i dont consent all this con thing... SPR do... when they hired part-timers from UMNO to do this dirty job

Hope said...

Mave,

So are you saying that we can't do anything about this? We, the people, have absolutely no power or say to this madness?

Maverick SM said...

Moo_t,

I agree with you but there are just so many of these I.T. experts in the opposition parties and watchdog groups; why aren't they not doing it?

Blow d' Whistle,

I agree with you it is not absolute; but a government is an institution comprising individuals and certainly there are many individuals who are good guys; but there are many who followed the conspiracy of the BN.

Hopeful,

Are you surprise? It's empirical fact.

Cruel Angel said...

This is really dirty!

What la... Still need phantom voters. I hate it when ppl play dirty

Anonymous said...

questions for RASHIT, ec head.

IS THIS RIGGING? IS THIS ELECTORAL CLEANSED?

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?

warrior2 said...

I have a problem with the arguament here.

You are assuming, IF it is true that some are able to vote twice [which I doubt, and I am waiting for clarification on this], these people vote for barisan, GUARANTED!

Anonymous said...

aiyo.....the fella who design their database sucks lah...

Anonymous said...

hantu hantu hantu hantu....

is it not the RaSHIT is also hantu hantu hantu hantu....

CORRECT CORRECT CORRECT

Anonymous said...

More phantom voters...

801018775059
800311086231
811028045577
830416610017
841207065917
851222740019
850513106435
851117106729
850802106378
850916086838
860320145365
861101105077
860208145701
860320145357
861217145011
860126145839
870914105781
870418105790
871016146308
881231100432
881103750027
880505066047
880906087033
881030136332
891102740096
891129740088
890520610089
890112146416
890920076065
890403615016
910609755079
920622710069

Pak Ndak said...

Is it because of poor data collection and massaging, archaic election laws or bureaucratic red-tape?

Check here also

Anonymous said...

No wonder Rashid's 'service' have been extended again. He really can make wonders. By the way, somebody has to do the dirty job and the 'clean people' will remain clean.

Anonymous said...

In Amran's case, they are (2) two totally different individuals with exact Name. To proved that, Amran the Army was born in 1st April and Amran the civilian was born in 4th of January.

In Hazley's case is rare and very unique where their name and birth of date are exactly the same BUT they are both totally DIFFERENT individuals.

So, anyone can reveal any other phantom voter like Hazley?

Anonymous said...

Mengikut prosedur yang biasa diorang buat masa daftar khidmat askar baru, turun je 10 cap jari IC lama (cth: 681103-75-0027(1))
kena pulang balik ke JPN dan dihapuskan. (1) tu merujuk salinan pertama IC. Kalau ilang dan buat baru no ni akan jadi (2) untuk salinan kedua, (3) untuk salinan ketiga dan seterusnya.

Lepas tu JPN akan kuarkan IC baru iaitu a.k.a IC tentera untuk gantikan IC lama yang dah dihapuskan tadi.

So, bila askar tadi dah pencen atau berhenti dari berkhidmat.. IC tentera akan diamik balik dan JPN akan kuarkan semula IC biasa kat askar pencen tu (cth: 681103-75-0027(2)).

Jadi, boleh ke ada 2 IC dalam satu masa?

Yang pasti, orang dah cuba memanipulasi keadaan data sama mcm kes pengundi yang dikatakan bwh umur tapi sebenarnya lebih 100 tahun. Kenapa orang2 ni buat kabaran yang mengelirukan? Orang inikah yang kita hendak pilih?