Monday, July 28, 2008

How come there's No evidence of sodomy?

Doctor: No evidence of sodomy

Article posted at: Malaysiakini

Beh Lih Yi and P Tarani | Jul 28, 08 1:36pm

There is no evidence that Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan was sodomised, according to the doctor who examined him four hours before he lodged a police report alleging he was sexually assaulted by PKR leader Anwar Ibrahim.

It is believed that Saiful went to two different hospitals on June 28 - the day he lodged the police report claiming that he was sodomised by his ex-boss.

He first went to Hospital Pusrawi (Pusat Rawatan Islam) in Jalan Tun Razak - a government-linked Islamic medical institution - at about 2pm.

According to a copy of the medical report obtained by malaysiakini yesterday, Saiful went to the hospital complaining of 'tenesmus' - a medical term for difficulty and pain in passing motion.

He was examined by Dr Mohamed Osman Abdul Hamid, the medical officer on duty.

The doctor said that the patient had alleged he was assaulted by the intrusion of a piece of "plastic" in the anus.

Mohamed Osman, according to his medical report which was recorded at 2.14pm, found "zero active bleeding", "zero ulcer or pus", "zero tear and scar" in Saiful's anus.

He also stated that Saiful appeared "alert", "comfortable", "not pale" and did not show any fever symptoms.

A senior Pusrawi official told malaysiakini this morning that the hospital had launched an internal investigation on how Saiful's medical report was leaked.

When malaysiakini showed him a copy of the report, he refused to return it saying, "It's our document."

Mohamed Osman, in his report's concluding remarks, advised Saiful to go to a government hospital so as "to rule out" assault and sodomy.

At 6pm on that day, Saiful went to Hospital Kuala Lumpur for his second medical examination. He subsequently lodged a report against Anwar at the police beat at the hospital.

According to an expert who has dealt with rape and sodomy cases, the victim must provide a second medical examination in a government hospital.

She said the court will only accept evidence from a government hospital but the first medical examination must collaborate with the second report, otherwise this could be challenged during the trial.

"From the report, the doctor had failed to find any evidence to support the patient's complaint. That was why he asked the patient to go to a government hospital to conclusively rule out assault or sodomy," said the expert who requested anonymity.

The doctor was said to be under tremendous stress as a result of the police interrogation and was advised by the hospital to take leave.

A check at the emergency unit where Mohamed Osman is attached revealed that he has taken leave since last week.

Apparently, it was reported at Malaysia-Today's blog that the medical doctor was lockup for 3 days by the police for "interrogation purpose".

Raja Petra's Malaysia-Today alleged that the doctor was directed to re-write his medical report to affirm that there were something that can relate the anus trespassing but the doctor refused to write a new daVinci Code.

[quote]

The police then picked up the doctor and detained him for three days. As much as they tried to force him to change his report to implicate Anwar he refused to do so.

Until today, the doctor stands by his report ... He knows he is going to be made to pay for this but he doesn’t care. He is not going to change his report ...

... he [Dr Mohamed Osman Abdul Hamid] has now taken his entire family and has gone into hiding because the police are looking for him and they want him to change his medical report.

[unquote]

(Reference Article from Malaysia-Today: Doctor on the run: police want him to fabricate evidence against Anwar and How, yet again, they are trying to fabricate evidence against Anwar)


Analytical Dissertation

Maybe, this is the reason that the police need some new DNA samples which the old samples cannot do. However, Prime Minister Pak Lah said the old DNA samples from Anwar had expired and thus a new sample is needed to collaborate and demystify.

Some people said this new scientific findings was discovered when our scientist conducted various tests at the International Space Station of which the results of the tests indicate that there is a high probability that DNA samples can expire over time if not properly utilized and stored.

However, the American and Russian scientists have yet to concur with the research findings and thus they could not confirm this hypothesis neither could they dispute the validity.

It is sad to note that American and Russian scientists have slackened and are far behind our Malaysian scientists in their medical research. We hope that the Americans will work hard to catch up with our progress; otherwise, they will face a drop in their International Rating and may rank below us.

43 comments:

Anonymous said...

Anybody has got a copy medical report from GHKL Drs? TQ

RPK

wisdomthinker said...

Again, RPK has come out a new shocking article regarding to Anwar's latest sodomy case. But should the medical report be reveal out so easy? Medical report are confidential anyway..

More curiously, why the police has to chase after the missing doctor? would that be more easy if the authorities just need to find a replacement instead?

Maverick SM said...

RPK,

Malaysiakini has; RPK should have; and I think Anwar might have; some other people may have.

Wisdomthinker,

You have a good point: why the police is after the medical doctor is anybody's guess. BTW, Malaysiakini had a copy of the medical report.

denzook said...

funny, i thot if this saiful wants drama, at least act professional a bit by hiring "stranger" cucuk his anoos and recall this experience with the "stranger" replaced as anwar - at least more realistic a bit. of course, he has to sacrifice his butt lah - the coordinator no good .....

Anonymous said...

after calling pusrawi myself, and double checked with their website, the doctor actually tak wujud lah!!

http://www.pusrawi.com.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=89&Itemid=95&lang=ms

i'm serious!

regards,

'confused'

artchan said...

bala hiding, saiful hiding, doctor hiding, immigration record missing..what else? Rosemary suing, hubby not suing..strange!!

What a major f8ck up!!!

artchan said...

bala hiding, saiful hiding, doctor hiding, immigration record missing..what else? Rosemary suing, hubby not suing..strange!!

What a major f8ck up!!!

hasilox said...

Aiya... why the doctor didn't check his vagina? The ladyboy was so traumatized and confused that he mistaken anus for vagina. :P

moo_t said...

Anonymous 5:22 PM,

My dear, please learn to read Muslim name.

First line clearly show his name

Dr. Mohammad Iqbal Omar MBBS (YGN), M.Med (E.C.U, Aus), DRM (UPM)

Anonymous said...

moo T,

muslims has two names?

really? so this doctor is Dr. Mohammad Iqbal Omar and Dr Mohamed Osman Abdul Hamid?

are they the same person?

please elaborate. is the latter not a muslim name also?

'confused'

Jefus said...

this is going to look real bad for BN,..... the proverbial shit has hit the fan,....

damage control will be next.

HuntressMoon said...

While. I was in Penang, I stayed with a family from Iraq who happened to know the guy who accused Anwar to have sodomised him during Mahathir's reign.
She mentioned when this guy wanted to ask his girlfriend's father for her hand in marriage. The guy confessed that he was paid handsomely to do so.

denzook said...

anon 5.22

try to recall altantuya where her immigration record has erased ......

same theory applies to the doctor....

moo_t said...

Sorry, seems I am also confuse.

Somebody at ktemoc.blogspot.com point out the info, from MMC.

Now this info is clearer.

http://mmc.gov.my/v1/searchmmc/main_search.php?action=detail&id=8528

---------------
It is too lake to erase Internet electronic records, because Google cache most of it.

moo_t said...

In the country call Bolehland, man who change their name must bare with an @.

so in such case
THAN AUNG @ MOHAMED OSMAN HAMID

Anonymous said...

confuse, anon5.22,denzook,

Sila check dg FGR website, Dr tsb keturunan Myanmar.

Sudah check

Suzy said...

PETALING JAYA: Timbalan Menteri Kesihatan Datuk Dr Abdul Latif ketika dihubungi menyifatkan, laporan Malaysiakini yang mendakwa ada laporan perubatan tiada kesan liwat ke atas Saiful berniat jahat bagi memberi gambaran tidak berlakunya perbuatan liwat.

“Laporan ini mempunyai unsur mala fide. Apa juga bentuk laporan sama ada kesan calar ada atau tidak, tiada siapa boleh buat kesimpulan liwat tidak berlaku selagi perkara berkenaan tidak dibicarakan di mahkamah,” katanya.



Typical BN goon. What happened when
Nurin Jazlin's post mortem pics were distributed to the public for viewing? Was any action taken against the doctor/pathologist or the hopital with the leak pics?

msiaman said...

I guess this is the kind of unity they are talking about when Uxxx liwat Pxx. Hai... how Pxx feels so cheap and used and no words can described how buggered they are. As for the Uxxx, shamelessly telling everyone they went to bed together.

Police? their integrity have long gone to the longkang. As long as they refuse to answer to some supervisory board, they are no more than licensed thugs. Talk about professionalism? Yes. Professional thugs! Refuse to hear anything else but their official version of the verdict. But when they go to court, they have no stamina to see it to the end. That's how professional they are. Just look at the Canny Ong and Norita cases. Also more sadly Nurin's case. Any clue? Ha ha .... who's asking? PDRM say shut up or they take a case of negligence against you. That's the level of professionalism they have achieved. Primary objective? Serving rakyat and country? What's in it doing that?

raja petai kamaruzaman said...

Lagi sekali RPK buat kenyataan yang sentiasa sensasi. Dari mana entah dia dapat maklumat macam tu. Hebat betul semua benda yang berlaku dia lebih tahu segala2nya. Betul ke tak orang tua ni. Tunggu je lah bila dah masuk mahkamah, masa tu baru semua bukti2 akan keluar, benda dalam siasatan biasa orang tak dedahkan senang2. Tak perlu buat kecoh sekarang.

marhaen said...

raja petai kamaruzaman, kita dah lama hidup dalam era ICT, keluarlah drp bawah tempurung. Raja Petra Kamarudin (RPK) tak perlu pun melangkah keluar untuk mendapatkan bahan dan maklumat, memadai dengan duduk di depan pc atau notebook beliau.

Zaman sekarang, maklumat dalam bentuk hard-copy boleh discan dan dihantar kpd sesiapa saja. RPK memang mempunyai ramai sukarelawan 'orang dalam' di pelbagai tempat termasuk KDN sendiri yg mempunyai akses kpd dokumen-dokumen penting. Mungkin RPK sendiri pun tidak mengenali siapa yg mengirimkan pelbagai bahan kpd beliau atau wakil beliau. Tetapi yg pasti, tidak ada apa yg dapat menyekat pengedaran maklumat dalam bentuk digital. Dan percayalah, beliau mungkin memiliki lebih banyak kotak drp ezam!

In the era of ICT, you don't even have to lift a foot. Your fingers and the keyboard, can do wonders. Grow up.

anak toyol said...

Bodoh sgtlah polis pegi tangkap anwar commando style klu kes tak kuat.Anwar ni dah terkenal suka buat kerja ikut pintu belakang,jadi tk hairanlah klu macai dia siRPK ni keluar mcm2 bukti kelakar nk bela boss dia.Kot iapun anwar,coba cobalah keluar ikut pintu depan wlupun masuk ikut pintu belakang.

Maverick SM said...

Denzook,

The revelation has caused much anxieties to the govt and the police. So we must be good citizens.

Confused,

We are all confused by this revelation; the police now claimed sabotage. We may not be able to understand what the govt wanted from this episode.

Artchan,

It's a difficult time for everyone; the nation may reel from this. Let's be just observant until further information.

Hasilox,

Don't add fuel...nice joke but could be insidious.

Moo_t,

Thanks for your own clarification and Dr Osman is surely not Dr Iqbal.

Jefus,

I'm not sure it will look bad for BN; but I am puzzled that the police seems to know what they want from the whole episode.

HuntressMoon,

The previous case is laid to rest and cremated; it's a kind of insane delusion.

Denzook,

We have to be discreet and it's better not to relate by conjecture.

Suzy,

Memang mala fide; tetapi dari pehak mana satu yang mala fide? Saya pun pening kepala.

The most disturbing fact is the observational facts that the police and the govt seems to be much in favor of a particular position in this matter irrespective of the evidence available.

Msiaman,

The police are doing their job as directed.

Raja Petai Kamaruzaman,

Dari mana? Dari Hospital lah.

Marhaen,

Perkara ini dan maklumat bukan boleh dapat di laman web; ia mesti di beli dahulu.

Anak Toyol,

Awak pandai betul; menang toyol.

anonemo said...

Mana mereka2 ni tahu yang sumber yang mereka dapat tu boleh dipercayai atau tidak? Entah2 semua benda bukti repot2 tu si RPK yang reka2 sendiri ke? Tunggu je lah di mahkamah nanti apa bukti2 yang dikemukakan. Nak bising2 sekarang pun tak guna.

Anonymous said...

PAK LAH & NARJIS,
Where are you? Say something! coward!!

Atantulya.

Anonymous said...

Sheikhfool was biten by plastic 'snake' in the arse at the famous Lorong Hj Taib, Chow Kit, KL for a fee.

G4m

toolan said...

Totally love your sarcasm, I hope Lah Lah and gang understands that underlying meaning, you knowlah, one fall asleep, one is a dropout claimed to be fark, one goes around and C4 everything with skrits and a bunch of smart/brilliant advisers who resides on a special 4th flr puffing cigars away.

You think they catch the drift?

But this is good news, it goes to show how bad our police, politics and judiciary system has gone too. This further justify the need for the "rakyat" to make a stand and make the right decision now, otherwise our future generations are in for deep shit!

Suzy said...

Sayfool, your days are numbered.

In Islam a slanderer of this nature will have his ass whipped 80times...so much of being sodomized.

denzook said...

i don understand, unless that saiful-guy is ignorant and total idiot, it is obvious he needs to have his butt sacked (whatever way) in order to get medical report from doctor to confirm sodomy took place. you can't just walk into hospital and just tell the doctor I'm sick while being healthy, what's more rape, beaten and sodomized. if he'll to fake a sodomy, he must at least sacrifice his butt.

otherwise the report should contain somehow his anoos injured or such, unless the doctor refrain entangled into this mess and simply dismissed the case concluding no butt raped. wait a minute, is the saiful told the doctor that his assailant is anwar at the first place ......

PurpLe~MuShRooM said...

Hhahahaha... Maverick, I love your sacarsm at the end of every post.
I was laughing hard at some of the comments here, especially the one by Denzook. I agree with him, the coordinator tak cukup experience. Hahaha.... This is much more exciting than any TVB drama.

Mankanan said...

RPK ni memang suka buat kontroversi dan suka kecoh-kecoh. Entah mana dia dapat report tu pun tak taulah. Adalah 'toyol" dia tu. Kalau tak takkan senang-senang je dias boleh dapat copy report tu. Lagipun report tu ntah betul ke tak. Tapi kira dahsyat juga RPK ni ek sebab boleh baca tulisan Doktor sepertimana yang kita tahu tulisan doktor hanya golongan yang berkenaan je yang tau baca melainkan ada 'orang dalam' yang dah translate report tu. Tak tau la kot doktor tu tulis report tu dengan perkatan sebijik-sebijik supaya semua boleh baca..

Maverick SM said...

anonemo,

Menang awak betul; benda ini boleh di reka? kalau betul, kes ini juga boleh di reka.

Toolan,

Why you say sarcasm? Don't lah! I am writing what I think; maybe I'm naive but I write what I think only.

Suzy,

That's true.

Denzook,

His butt was pierced with a plastic object as reported in the Osman report.

Purple~Mushroom,

I don't sarcasm... I write what I think; and I think American has not improved on their scientific research.

kittykat46 said...

The simplest explanation is -

June 28 - 2 pm - Doctor A examinied Saiful - no sign of Sodomy

June 28 between 2 pm - 6 pm - Somebody - don't know who - sodomised Saiful, either with a Dildo or a real penis, leaving it all bloody and torn.

June 28 - 6 pm - HUKL examined Saiful - presto ! - Saiful has all the symptoms of sodomy.

Maverick SM said...

Mankanan,

Awak cakap betul juga; mana dia cari kontroversi kita memang tak tau. Doktor tu memang tulis sebijik bijik dan susah di baca. Awak memang pandai!

Kittykat46,

Wah, you got a new conspiracy theory.

modern youth said...

phew.yet another confusing revelation.

i've red the explanation of the handwriting on some blog.still i am not yet convince because there's no saying of who did the explanation.if the explanation was by a professional then it's certain.until then,no conlusion could be made.

Tanie said...

Somewhere someone said that it's not the full medical report that's revealed? Really wonder how did RPK get his hands on so much explosive material, really gutsy man. And just like Mr Bala this doctor mysteriously disappeared pulak..

rawna hibramin said...

RPK's latest revelation about the medical report is nothing but his own conclusion. He is actually exaggerating the intepretation of the doctor's writings. Check out this link http://stephendoss.blogspot.com/2008/07/is-rpk-spinning-out-of-control.html#links

Maverick SM said...

Modern Youth,

Ya, you need to be convinced; but funny thing is the police need not be convinced even when they received the Dr Mohamed's medical report because they had earlier convinced themselves that it must happened as directed.

Tanie,

You will be more surprised when RPK reveals more documents in the coming days.

Rawna Hibrahim,

Thanks for the link.

rawna hibramin said...

The following was sent to me by a medical specialist from Hospital Putrajaya, for now I won't be revealing his name...but enough said...I rest my case :)

Any girl maybe a virgin from the time she is born until she dies if she choses to do so.She gets a hymen tear when her vagina is penetrated.

All human beings anus gets reversely penetrated(passing motion) within a few days of birth and this act continues almost on a daily basis for the rest of their lives.

Most adults(male/female/trans) would have been reversely penetrated sometime(and some many times) in their lives with big hard feaces when they were constipated.

When you are constipated, your feaces is usually hard and dry ....... how many of us had tears?Some of us may have bled a little but the next time we went to pass motion, no more bleeding any more ......... leave alone blood after few days. For pus to form , you need a tear and infection to set which rarely occurs.

For all those who still doubt that someone can get sodomized without suffering any tear, bleed and pus formation need to know that anuses are being routinely penetrated in hospitals on a daily basis with metal proctoscopes which are the 1-1.5 inch diameter and are further opened once deeper inside the anus - no tears, no bleeds.

ABOUT THE OUTPATIENT EXAMINATION

1)It was done either in outpatient and probably in an ER(A&E) room
2)It was done by a medical officer and not a specialist
3)The history taken was very minimal as rightly pointed out:
when it occurred ie time, date, place
how many times has it occurred
who did it
consensual forced or neither ie not agreeing but not resisting
any constipation recently or in the past
size, consistency , shape etc.

Physical examination PR means Per Rectal examination whereby the basic examination would be;
spreading the cheeks of the buttocks in a semi prone position to look at the anus under good lighting
putting a gloved forefinger through the anus to feel tone, swellings, irregular surfaces, prostate
proctoscope examination whereby a speculum is inserted through the anus to look directly at the anal canal and also the anus while the proctosocpe is being withdraw out of the anal canal after completing the examination. This is the appropriate exam to look for tears.

Looking at the OPD exam, it looks like the doctor just performed only the visual exam because:
all is reported as "seen/not seen"
no mention made of findings of finger rectal exam ie stained with mucus/blood/feaces etc.
no proctoscopy exam findings mentioned

It is surprising how casual the examination was in view of the fact that the patient complained of assault to his anus - doctor's job is to do a thorough exam irrelevant whether he/she believes the patient complaint(s)
Finally, the examination was not done by a specialist who in this case would have to be a colorectal surgeon and a forensic specialist. Even if the specialist finds no tears(old or new), blood or pus, it does not mean a person was not sodomized.

Source : http://stephendoss.blogspot.com/

Maverick SM said...

Rawna Hibramin,

Thanks and it's a good information.

Ya, I have read the article by rights2write.

Interestingly, Zorro had also posted a comment by a medical consultant at HKL and this is what he wrote:

This was posted by Mr Smith in Susan Loone's comment box:
This was posted by Anonymous at Susan Loon’s blog:
Anonymous (14:21:4smilies/cool.gif :

Susan,

I would like to write the following statements in the name of GOD whom I believe.
I am a goverment doctor in the rank of consultant working in hospital Kuala Lumpur. I know personally the doctors who examined Saiful on that day -28 June 2008.

The so called medical report mentioned in the NST is a fabrication or imagination by the UMNO paper. There is no such medical report submitted to the polis yet.

When examine Saiful, the specialist could not find any signs of Saiful being sodomised. Saiful was very cheerful, unlike real sodomised patient who will usaually very sad and disturbed.

Saiful was subsequently admitted to the ward and observed for a day.
He was completely well in the ward and not emotionally disturbed.

Please let RPK know of this.
Thanks.

So, we have many informations and more will be forthcoming. We are parties that do not benefit nor suffer from this "conspiracies"; thus we merely observed the phenomenas to discover the truth of our system administration and justice system.

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