Wednesday, July 09, 2008

Hand Gesture - will only mean what you want it to mean

He said he did this action; and that's not obscene.

He showed his hands to the reporters - he said - that's how he had acted.

Of course, we believed him; he is an Umno MP, and a Muslim; he would lie, that's not his values;

that's not Umno's values too; Umno won't lie;

only bloggers lied; and they slander.

The Prime Minister said those who slander are now classified as traitors; for slander is an act of treason, and the punishment for the crime of treason is death.

Umno won't lie; Umno leaders never lied! How could they? They are Muslims!




But... but,

someone captured a picture of the parliamentary session ... and accidentally and incidentally ... that's familiar!!!!

Hei! Isn't that him? That's him!!!

Hello! That hand gesture is not the same as what was shown to the reporters at the parliament!!!

That's a lie, isn't it?

After that picture was shown, he admitted that it was an obscene gesture.

He admitted he did it; but he did it with a good reason:

"Yes, I did it, but it (the gesture) is not what it means. Everybody has their own perception and it is not rude and it is not what people think it is,” he said when met in the Parliament lobby."

It certainly is true; everybody had their own perception and interpretation; if that's true, then in this world there's no lie and no truth; for as long as you treat it as truth, thus it is truth; and for as long as you regard it as lie, thus it shall be a lie.

But if this logic holds water, then the PM cannot say the bloggers are slanderers and it is a treason for slandering; because they believe what they write is the truth, and thus they have a right to speak the truth; for truth is all about what each and everyone's perception and it is not what other people think it is if they objected.

So what is truth? Again, what's a lie?

Asked to comment on Bung Mokhtar’s insistence that the gesture was not offensive, Nazri replied: “If he says it is not a rude gesture, does it mean he can do it again?”


Somehow, a few do agree that the gestures are not obscene; at least there's one more Umno leader who shared this value ... you know who he is?????



33 comments:

Anonymous said...

mave,

Look at the face of BNatang rep. from keBINATANGAN, like ORANGUTAN. TG Nik Aziz is perfect in describing this threatened species.

HAHAHEHE

Anonymous said...

He is a disgrace. I wish more of our ministers admit their mistakes, apologize and vow to not do it again, they should be sent to boot camp *ehem* to learn a thing or two about constitutional law, and the meaning of ministerial responsibility.

Anonymous said...

Dear Mave,

i thought that hand gesture meant goodbye.

i remember being told one of our prime minister brought a vvip to a zoo visit and the orang utan kept showing the same hand gestures at the vip visitor who subsequently was told it meant goodbye.

have a nice day.

CK said...

bung mokhtar is a disgrace to the whole human race and should be destroyed from the world. i pray for that everyday.
enuff said.

Anonymous said...

My Sabah friend always argue Sabah people are smart and proud compare to people in West Malaysia. But always, Sabah MP prove otherwise.

I pay respect to Sarawak people, especially Sibu and Bintulu people.

CK said...

mave, i have to copy your two pic of tat BNatang MP in my blog.
cannot tahan already.

Anonymous said...

Camera problem!
Next time, only cameras approved by umno are allowed to be used. lol

Anonymous said...

so this is what thet call 'ketuanan me-layu'? or is it 'detik-detik kegemilangan olang me-layu'?

or rather demi agama, bangsa & negara?

as najib so proudly say, mengangkasakan bangsa ( aka SEND THE WHOLE BLARDY RACE INTO ORBIT...)

```PM-PrimateMentality

Anonymous said...

see.... i told you before.. it's kebinatangan MP...

walau siapa pun yang buat that stupid sign, tetap tak baik pada semua pihak... create la sign lain, tak kreatif sungguh! lol

Anonymous said...

Let get these MPs to swear on te Holy Book they did not mean anything obscene with that gesture!

Anonymous said...

Reminds me of the movie Matrix, in the conversation with the spoon boy:

Spoon boy: Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Spoon boy: There is no spoon.
Neo: There is no spoon?
Spoon boy: Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.

Unknown said...

Maverick

UMNO members are all bunch of Monkeys from Primary Jungles coming to City. Just ignore them all, do not waste time and energy thinking about their character, behaviour, or even actions.

They among themselves do not respect each other, let alone for ordinary people like us to recognise their existence and contribution to the nation building.

They only great at Sodomization and Bombing of innocent human beings.

Just look at them like Garbages In and Out!

Anonymous said...

dear moo_t

The idea of summing people up according to their birth place is a bit ridiculous.
yes, Bung Mokhtar is the MP for Sabah. But he doesn't represent Sabahans as a whole.
An individual is an individual by his or her own right.

Anonymous said...

I think we should just leave this idiot alone.
The more this issue is taken up, the greater he will think he is.

huntressmoon said...

hahahaha it cracked me up early in the morning.

Anonymous said...

Hello Mave,

Yeah, just leave the idiot alone. I can't believe how can he be the MP of Sabah. So sad.

Anonymous said...

Bab2 menipu ni tak payah nak bandingkan dengan orang lain..Sendiri2 mesti bertanggungjawab..Tak semestinya orang lain menipu, kita pun boleh menipu, kalau macam tu takda bezanya antara penipu dan kita, semua sama je..Memang ada sesetengah blogger yang menyebarkan penipuan..Tak payah nak berdalih..Kadang2 benda yang yang kebenaran belum dipastikan, sesetengah blogger dah siarkan dan buat laporan..Kena pandai pilih juga, dan cara penulisan juga perlu betul supaya, kita tak kelihatan seperti menyiarkan penipuan..Ini kerana ada sesetengah blogger yang begitu berat sebelah sehinggakan mereka tidak peduli apa yang ditulis asalkan ia seiring dengan fahaman sendiri..

Monsterball said...

I saw the Video recording of the Parliament session - its not what Bung Mokhtar showed during the interview with reporters.

The action in Parliament was definitely what the average Malaysian would construe as an obsecene gesture.

What a poor specimen of humanity !

Anonymous said...

Just let him be. He is well known for his wild-attics.
A disgrace to Sabahans.
Doesn't mean that you are in Parliment you should check out your manners at the door.

Anonymous said...

thanks to people like you and zorro and hanief, politikus etc ... the truth is out.

i remember 1999 when DSAI case came, i didnt know so much until i was studying in australia and saw what real reporting was.

keep up the good work mave, we agree, we disagree but in the end we move on and try to make everyday better.

sad state of affairs in malaysia aint it?

Anonymous said...

This is the only idiot in the whole country who does not savvy what that hand signal means:--
http://www.goimageshare.com/out.php/i11274_MsiaPM.jpg

Anonymous said...

rekniht modsiw said,

Bab2 menipu ni tak payah nak bandingkan dengan orang lain..Sendiri2 mesti bertanggungjawab..Tak semestinya orang lain menipu, kita pun boleh menipu, kalau macam tu takda bezanya antara penipu dan kita, semua sama je..Memang ada sesetengah blogger yang menyebarkan penipuan..Tak payah nak berdalih..Kadang2 benda yang yang kebenaran belum dipastikan, sesetengah blogger dah siarkan dan buat laporan..Kena pandai pilih juga, dan cara penulisan juga perlu betul supaya, kita tak kelihatan seperti menyiarkan penipuan..Ini kerana ada sesetengah blogger yang begitu berat sebelah sehinggakan mereka tidak peduli apa yang ditulis asalkan ia seiring dengan fahaman sendiri..


Dude...how much did the guys pay you to defend them? All the facts are tabled out already..zzz

Anonymous said...

couple of friends from abroad was pretty amazed by our mp antics & was quite surprised that the leaders could endorsed such intolerable behaviour.

but we did explain to these visitors that not all mp, MALAY mp only cos' its in their blood and its their 'budaya'.

and this is the only way they know how to show the 'race supremacy' thing.

***adam

kfaisal said...

mave,
i watched the video which showed adnan yaakob doing the gesture.. if i am not mistaken.. about 2 years ago.. that time i was really shocked.. i thought he is kinda skema or nerdy guy because of his style when tucking his shirt.. put his pants very high above the bellybutton hehehe but i was wrong.. samseng jugak pak menteri sorang tu.. alahai..

Anonymous said...

what could we possibly expect from umno mp, when the boss himself having loose/weak moral.

http://sangkelembai2006.blogspot.com/2006/12/jari-jemari-islam-hadhari.html

```tempoyakjati

Anonymous said...

if a leader who can't lead & cannot even command the respect of his staffs, why wait until 2010... go eat sh*t now and die.

```fcukbadawoe

Anonymous said...

Hi Mav,

3rd sentence in your write-up should probably read as "he would NOT lie" ...

shame to the Speaker for NOT reprimanding him.

and for him to be the 2nd man for the BBC, is a reflection of the calibre (or lack of) of the candidate as well as those who appointed him.

With the impending prediction of recession, they can still afford to clown around.

Maverick SM said...

Hahahehe,

You call him orangutan; you will kena ISA; Pak Lah says this is treason.

Periphy,

You have a good idea.

Anon 10:05,

You have good memory; I must recall.

CK,

Sometimes he is a nice guy; but most of the time he is arsie.

CK, you can CnP as you like.

Moot,

Ya, I respect those Sarawak MPs.

Maverick SM said...

Hasilox,

Hahaha...that's a good suggestion.

Suealeen,

You are right; he is not creative...hahahaha

Gongkaukau,

No lah; not everything also swear lah.

Purple Haze,

That's a good analogy.

Oris,

Don't call them monkeys; Pak Lah say this is slander and slander is a treason.

CoffeeMug,

I agree with you; he is an individual.

Anonymous said...

SINCE WE ARE STILL ON THIS BUNG-TOT GUY, TO THESE TWO OTHER A88HOLES & 8ALL-LICKERS MORONS...

THE DEPUTY SPEAKER LATUK RONALD GIAN-DICK & MP LOCTOR MOHD FCUK ZAKARSHIT... LET ME GIVE U TWO A THE LOUDEST "PUPPP"!!!

FOR ENDORSING BUNG-TOT LEWD GESTURES & A88-KISSING HIM.

Maverick SM said...

HuntressMoon,

Have a good laugh; it will relieve stress.

Wisdomthinker,

He is at times a good MP; but most of the times, he is ....arsie.

Rekniht Modsiw,

Ya, bloggers semua penipu; sila baca Utusan and Berita Harian.

Kittykat46,

I have not seen the video; I saw the pictures in TheStar.

Milo,

Let's see whether he will do that again.

Shiver,

Thanks for the appreciation and it's motivating as we bloggers have to take quite some abuses from commentators who thinks we are bigots and have nothing to do.

Anon 5:42pm,

Thank you for helping out here.

Adam,

That may not be a fair statement; there are quite many MPs of all races who are also the same, in different ways.

Blurr33,

You have good observation.

Tempoyakjati,

Thanks for the link.

Gan,

Thanks for the correction. Ya, recession is near; we will see the pain

Chicken Ball said...

I think Bung had just improved the way we, the Rakyat should greet BN politician!!

Maverick SM said...

Chicken Ball,

I agree with you; we now have a better ideas of our BN politicians.