Excerpts from the question-and-answer session by Malaysiakini's Andrew Ong & Tarani Palani with Hospital Pusrawi's general manager Wan Mahmood Wan Yaacob and hospital's medical director Kamaruddin Ahmad.Kamaruddin:
Q: If you have not been in contact with the doctor, how do you know that the doctor did not conduct a medical check-up for sodomy?
A: We based our decision on the medical report he wrote.
Q: So are there two different reports? Are they (the report that is circulating) the same (as the original)?
A: It is the same report.
Q: You do have the original report, so is it (the copy that is circulating) the genuine report?
A: I cannot say if it is the genuine unless someone confirms, the committee. Maybe, maybe not. It looks the same but it is not the original copy, that is with me.
Looks the same but it is not the same because we have the original copy.
Q: Are the contents the same? It is the original copy from Pusrawi?
A: Yes.
Q: He (Saiful) was not examined for sodomy, but (how come) the doctor said that there was no signs of sodomy.
A: He came complaining of pain in the anus, so that's a part of the routine, you look for pus, bleeding.
Q: How is this different from an actual sodomy check-up?
A: He came complaining of anus pain not complaining of sodomy. So the doctor performed a check-up for anus pain not sodomy.
Q: What led the doctor TRO (to rule out) sodomy? Why?
A: Because Saiful mentioned that he was sodomised. Sodomy check-up has to be done by a specialist not a medical officer. You need a gut specialist. We don't have one in Pusrawi.
Q: Does that mean that Dr Mohamed Osman is not qualified to make any conclusions?
A: He is not qualified to make any statements, any conclusions (with regards to sodomy).
Q: You have spoken to Dr Mohamed who has confirmed that he examined Saiful and confirmed that he has signed this medical report, why is the hospital still not convinced that it is the genuine medical report? Why is it taking so long to match the copy with the original copy?
A: We just realised this. When? Two days ago. It is just like VK Lingam said, "It looks like me, sounds like me but it is not me".
Q: You are not disputing whether the medical report is real. You are disputing if Dr Mohamed has the qualifications to ascertain that (sodomy had occurred). Basically you are discrediting your own medical staff?
A: No, but not when concerning this case. Is he suspended? No, he is on leave.
Q; If the contents of the reports are the same are you acknowledging that the report could have been from Pusrawi?
A: It could have been. It is the same.
Q: There are two different writing on the medical report.
A: Yes, there are two different. The patient arrived to see a doctor, and he meet with a female doctor first. After he complained of his anus pain, than he was passed on to a male doctor (Dr Mohamed).
Source: Malaysiakini: Hospital: It wasn't sodomy-related
Q: If you have not been in contact with the doctor, how do you know that the doctor did not conduct a medical check-up for sodomy?
A: We based our decision on the medical report he wrote.
Q: So are there two different reports? Are they (the report that is circulating) the same (as the original)?
A: It is the same report.
Q: You do have the original report, so is it (the copy that is circulating) the genuine report?
A: I cannot say if it is the genuine unless someone confirms, the committee. Maybe, maybe not. It looks the same but it is not the original copy, that is with me.
Looks the same but it is not the same because we have the original copy.
Q: Are the contents the same? It is the original copy from Pusrawi?
A: Yes.
Q: He (Saiful) was not examined for sodomy, but (how come) the doctor said that there was no signs of sodomy.
A: He came complaining of pain in the anus, so that's a part of the routine, you look for pus, bleeding.
Q: How is this different from an actual sodomy check-up?
A: He came complaining of anus pain not complaining of sodomy. So the doctor performed a check-up for anus pain not sodomy.
Q: What led the doctor TRO (to rule out) sodomy? Why?
A: Because Saiful mentioned that he was sodomised. Sodomy check-up has to be done by a specialist not a medical officer. You need a gut specialist. We don't have one in Pusrawi.
Q: Does that mean that Dr Mohamed Osman is not qualified to make any conclusions?
A: He is not qualified to make any statements, any conclusions (with regards to sodomy).
Q: You have spoken to Dr Mohamed who has confirmed that he examined Saiful and confirmed that he has signed this medical report, why is the hospital still not convinced that it is the genuine medical report? Why is it taking so long to match the copy with the original copy?
A: We just realised this. When? Two days ago. It is just like VK Lingam said, "It looks like me, sounds like me but it is not me".
Q: You are not disputing whether the medical report is real. You are disputing if Dr Mohamed has the qualifications to ascertain that (sodomy had occurred). Basically you are discrediting your own medical staff?
A: No, but not when concerning this case. Is he suspended? No, he is on leave.
Q; If the contents of the reports are the same are you acknowledging that the report could have been from Pusrawi?
A: It could have been. It is the same.
Q: There are two different writing on the medical report.
A: Yes, there are two different. The patient arrived to see a doctor, and he meet with a female doctor first. After he complained of his anus pain, than he was passed on to a male doctor (Dr Mohamed).
Source: Malaysiakini: Hospital: It wasn't sodomy-related
I truly love this piece of communication and information dissemination.
It is like re-enacting the Lingham drama!
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20 comments:
Saiful saw a female doctor 1st then passed on the male doctor, why not to a gay doctor who's an expert in anal penetration!
wow
Seems to me like an attempt to suppress the truth and to pervert the course of justice.
UMNO uses all its government/semi government apparatus to wipe out its main political foe. Clearly this episode brings embarrassment to the country which is currently at par with Myammar and Zimbabwe.
Mind you of late this countries are settling issues with their political enemies. Myammar is releasing Aung Su Ki and Zimbabwe sharing power with Morgan Tsvangirai and here we are with this crappy sodomy issue. How low can we go?
At least we learn somethign after 10 yrs on Sodomy.. In bolehland they are Ass Hole expert, they only and only them can have legaly accepted medical report. These expert can be found easily in parliment, I heard they must be member of Badan Najis (BN).
Wonder why it took so long, we need the ass hole expert.
I think saudara Anwar will be in jail very soon.
And all these done my people who call themselves Muslims and want ither to follow their role model!
I suppose the newest catch phrsase in Malaysian cyberspace will be korek, korek, korek instead of correct, correct, correct.
But the replies by the Pusrawi fellows sound like they are discrediting their own staff !
MMC should step in the investigate the issue on Doctor/Patient Confidentiality and perhaps suspend the hospital immediately.
Be good if some medical doctors can comment on this issue.
MMC should step in the investigate the issue on Doctor/Patient Confidentiality and perhaps suspend the hospital immediately.
Be good if some medical doctors can comment on this issue.
Looks like the GM has no balls to say the truth. Im bluffed by the whole situation. Doctor job is to diagnosis a patient’s condition and prescribes treatment. Tarani Palani is not a qualified person to give his views based o what he know. He did not even meet to discuss the situation. Worst of all, Dr Mohamed was not present during the Q&A session. What kind of management is this? Most of his answers are not direct and clear. Did he mention that Saiful did not complain about sodomy? How did he know this? I guess he must have discussed with Saiful. Why did the doctor wrote in his report it was?( presume I saw the original which I believe is). All this is just a sendiwara for Malaysian. I think its time we topple this corrupted UMNO and its cronies. I pity other BN component party which are trying to make a change but looks like they have to keep on licking UMNO’s ass for sometime till the next GE.
CORRECT, CORRECT, CORRECT. Doc,you should handover the medal you won as best speaker to these 2 idiots! they spoke like they're being sodomised!- mmudahlupa
wow,
Aiya, that's difficult to answer lah!
Sheriff,
You have a good observation; how come they don't have the same thoughts?
Suzy,
We are thick-skin!
Chauncey Gardener,
It isn't! If you try to read the answers in the interview you can get it.
Dr Quack,
Even medical doctors prefer to differ as was said by Dr Kamaruddin.
Nesh Bru,
The GM said the truth; the truth is, he could not say the truth because the truth will be costly.
Dr Quack,
The 1st comment by wow is by a medical doctor.
on call
Are you saying lingham is a doctor now or the doctor trying to play lingham. or is the the doctor playing with his Lingam.
I am confused!!!1??
tis is a blatant insult to all malaysian. all those who involved in any blame-frame will be dilaknati Tuhan.
god bless
even the hospitals are now being used to serve the powers-that-be interests? who is next?
next time, when one goes to Pus something hospital for a sodomy check-up, asked the doc if he is gay. if not, he is not qualified to conduct such check-up. nothing beats the real shafting, isnt it?
first thr FRU. Damn open lies coz after beating tehbejesus out of a young man, they have the guts to testify before Suhakam to say "No Violence".
Now, an experienced doc examined an arsehole and found no sodomy, thats not good enough coz he is no specialist. and the auntie pet even knows how long the arse was probed as if theshe was there.
this is Bolehland.
Final warning. Unless one is from corrupt BN, dont ever aspire to be the PM. Coz the standard operating procedure applied is to charge the aspiring PM with Sodomy. The main actors and supporting cats are all in place ever ready to do the bidding.
Gut specialist!?
Woot, google it and you will find interesting trends. ;) gastroenterologist, that was long.
Let me start a bureaucratic jokes.
To check the "force penetration"
gastroenterologist : WTF, I only check digestive problem. Ask for dermologist.
dermologist : It is about Muscle, a general medical officer will do.
General medical officer : You heard Hospital Pusrawi GM? You need a "gut specialist".
ROFL... I can't stop this.. hahaahahahahahaahahah.
Maverick
How come the GM is not a Doctor but talk like Doctor???? He gave opinion like Doctor, but not Doctor???
Funnie ehhh....
Indeed another same old story "Sounds Like Doctor, Looks Like Doctor, But Not a Doctor".
That GM reminds me of old Joke Series by Benny Hill (UK); perhaps PUSRAWI could produce such Joke Series title "Anal Sounds Like Doctor".
What do you think, Mav?
Aiyoyo, for goodness sake, don't ever, ever go to Pusrawi for any sort of medical treatment.
A man goes there for a stomach-ache complaint has his anus checked.
A woman going there for a flu may find her breasts being checked.
Artchan,
You should try to grasp what Pusrawi is stating; read insightfully.
CK,
I think you didn't grasp the lines as espoused.
Moo_t,
Thanks for the info; I will google it.
Tai-Choon-Toi,
GM is general manager; he manages the doctor and need not be a doctor; he needs to be able to manage only.
On the Lingham's famous line, you should try to grasp the point. It's esoteric.
Kittykat46,
Maybe you didn't read the lines as per the interview with Malaysiakini. Read carefully and slowly; then digest.
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