Monday, November 24, 2008

Islam supports ISA?

32 Muslims Organization and Malay Organizations have got together under the Related Bodies Cooperation Network (Pewaris) marched to the Jalan Tun Razak Police Station in a demonstration to support the use of the Internal Security Act (ISA) against those rakyat, who were in their opinions, are elements threatening the country's harmony and who they think are elements who stirred racial sentiments.

Pewaris is also preparing a memorandum to be submitted to the Home Minister Syed Hamid Albar and the Yang di-Pertuan Agong.

At the Jalan Tun Razak Police Station they made reports directed at those who spoke out against the ISA and the Fatwa against Tomboys. The report were also directed at Hindraf and those who question Malay Rights or rights which they believed belongs to the Malays.

At the same time, the police today moved in to disperse a group of people who had gathered at a field in Ampang Jaya since 8pm for the launch of an anti-ISA campaign.

In the process, it is learnt that about seven people have been arrested for failing to disperse.

Police light strike force unit started dispersing the crowd - numbering less than 100 - at about 9.26pm just as PAS vice-president Mohammad Sabu started to address the crowd.

The campaign was organised by the Abolish ISA Movement (GMI). It was to be launched by Opposition Leader Anwar Ibrahim.

GMI chairperson Syed Ibrahim Syed Noh was also present at the venue since early evening.

GMI secretary E Nalini said that among those arrested were three PAS leaders from Kuala Lumpur and Selangor.


Read more here and at Malaysiakini.

17 comments:

Yan said...

Ptui! Again Double standard! Pewaris were allowed to demonstrate but not the PR opposition.

Anonymous said...

Why is it that i see faces of BN/UMNO behind this rally?

Anonymous said...

The Iron Hand of The Sleeping Mullah will smash all who dare oppose him (except those from his own party who cut short his term, until March 2009. They are too powerful to smash.)

RaZ said...

It is ironic that people who support to abolish the use ISA yet are silent on the draconian laws used by airport authorities.

Mention the word 'bomb,' even in jest, at an airport or on-board an airplane and you could be hauled up for questioning and even jailed.

That particular law came off from the 911 where people (American) now view security seriously.

ISA in Malaysia attempt to accomplish the same objectives. It compels people to view security and racial harmony seriously. People do not realize that we still have the freedom of speech, to put down any politician or race in this country as long as it does not influence others to go out and create another May 13th.

PAS promoting to repel ISA? That's the biggest joke. They (and most Muslims) cannot even accept comical caricatures on religion. Where is their credibility? How can they be critical of 'oppressive' laws (because of social security) and yet impose dress code on women (and men too.)

All seem to want to follow the US. To be hypocrites! Promoting freedom and yet invade countries and legislate the Patriot Act and legalize detention of 'terrorists' at Guantanomo Bay. Promote democracy and yet install puppet governments in their favor.

Malaysians seem to like following that hypocritical style; bitching about democracy and justice but just as quick to offer 'a token' to quickly settle an impending speeding ticket. Impose laws and regulations on smoking and rear seat belts to be a more 'caring' society yet park haphazardly, sometime double and triple park. The Muslims here are no different when they park their cars in front of the mosque on Fridays obstructing traffic. Preach about about taking care of the environment but everyone still drives and pollutes. How many of us here actually cut back on their holidays because it involves burning fossil fuels to reach their destination?

Cakap Tak Serupa Bikin. That is what this blog is about and the people too.

moo_t said...

If putting each of this "NGO" under scrutinize, you will not surprise they are running using umno funds or indirectly drawing "wages" from Malaysia government,under various accounts or grants.

Like it or not, this methodology of "diluting NGO power by planting ruling parties organisation" start from T.D.Mahathir era.

Hope said...

A lot of people are followers who do not know the causes and reasons for what they are fighting for. And a lot of people become followers just to feel a sense of belonging when they themselves are not clear of the path that they are walking on. Sad.

Anonymous said...

What's the use of ISA if the Authority is prejudiced & practised selective detention of Malaysian citizens as shown in the past & in the most recent cases?? The arrest & release of a Reporter next day. The arrest of a blogger but was later being oredered to be released by the Court. Whilst other racist instigators remain at large.

La Cha Mau said...

32 Muslim NGOs!!! Wow! There sure must have been a whole bunch of people marching illegally to the TAR Police Station. Was there a police permit issued. If not, should we ask Tan Sri Musa Why Not?

By the way I believe there should also be a Fatwa issued on Big Time leaders who enjoy anal sex with Mongolian broads and then blowing them up in the name of the Prophet.

CK said...

no hope lah. hmm....

"i pack my bags and i'm ready to go... the taxi's waiting outside the door...." leaving on a jet plane? maybe the eurocopter.....

toolan said...

So finally it is out in the open now, Malay Rights means ISA..........

ISA is here so that those who wants to live by "Ketuanan Melayu" can continue practicing this believe.

At least these fellas have the balls to say it out right.......very loud and clear.....

sheriff said...

Dis they have a permit to demonstrate? If not, why were they not arrested?

abu said...

What a sham!

Maverick SM said...

Yan,

Cool down. There's more than meet the eyes.

RaZ,

There's just so much horror regarding airplane terrorism and it is the airline security system to take extreme care to avoid such risks.

Regarding PAS, I have no comment.

I think you fail to consider the fact that ISA is not only draconian but the use of it had been grossly abused in particular, to stifle political disagreement and dissent. The law is only necessary against communism and on matters that truly reflect anarchism or where the national security is being under threat by subversive elements. Political disagreement and dissent is not a national security threat of subversiveness unless it gets rowdy and uncontrollable.


Moo_t,

I agree that Mahathir has contributed greatly to such political abuses of power.

Hope,

You have a good point.

La Cha Mau,

You are joking... no fatwa lah.

CK,

We cannot be so pessimistic. We have to press on to seek betterment.

Toolan,

No lah. Don't be so obnoxious.

sheriff,

I don't know whether they had a permit or not but I believed they did have as oppose to the vigil.

Abu,

It's not a sham. It's more a political ploy.

sinkeh said...

Such demos are all orchestrated lah!

RaZ said...

Mav,

"I think you fail to consider the fact that ISA is not only draconian but the use of it had been grossly abused in particular, to stifle political disagreement and dissent. The law is only necessary against communism and on matters that truly reflect anarchism or where the national security is being under threat by subversive elements. Political disagreement and dissent is not a national security threat of subversiveness unless it gets rowdy and uncontrollable."

You missed my point. Your response proved that you agree on the existence of 'draconian' laws like ISA or Patriot Act or even uttering 'bomb' in the midst of air travel.

The issue is abuse on its implementation. That is a totally different matter. Its like saying to ban all weapons because it kills. Let's start with atomic bombs, missiles, firearms, knives, airplanes (since it was used as a weapon in 911,) automobiles, alcohol, cigarettes and whatever other objects that kills.

So if you think our ISA is being abused by our politicians, how in the world did RPK got off his charge?

Do you think that all the inmates at Guatanamo Bay are terrorist?

Are you a terrorist? No? But what if one of your article incite others to be violent against a particular community, are you one then?

Passing laws, even like the first commandment 'Thou shall not kill' is easy. Implementing it across various circumstances and situations is not. From capital punishment, misadventure and self defense. Just because the mechanism to implement the specific law is imperfect does not mean that the law is not fair or justified.

Raison D'etre said...

Raz's: "So if you think our ISA is being abused by our politicians, how in the world did RPK got off his charge".

If you read the decision, RPK got off on a technicality in that his detention (or the Home Minister's Order) was not following the Act's Preamble.

It's there all the while, really.

While there are detentions (the Jemaah Islamiyah, for example) which seems to accede to the preamble, there were others which were not: Teresa, the Scomi-guy, the Sin Chiew reporter, RPK (of course) and a few others.

The problem with the Act lie in the fact that if the order is within the preamble, there's no legal recourse for a hearing.

It's all discretionary. In the Home Minister's hands. Not even a Committee. Just ONE person.

That's why the ACT is draconian.

God bless.

RaZ said...

Raison D'etre,

Yups. I did not miss that point. Same as only one person can interpret the point of law being argued in our courts; the presiding judge. We done away with justice by a jury of our own peers.

Whether it is the judge or the Home Minister, proper care and diligence should be undertaken so that they are persons that the society accepts. We directly or indirectly put them there. Obviously, our system is not perfect.

Point I was making was if the the politicians and/or our government were totally authoritarian, we would not having this discussion in the first place. Or RPK let off, same with Irene Fernandez or Anwar Ibrahim.

Because there are laws and due process in this country. Tough it may be, we all have to live with it. Only the lawyers prosper in the confusion.